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Old 04-14-2011, 01:11 PM   #41
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Well slap my ass and call me Sally.

A 5% increase sure seems like it is much much more. One thing I do know that what was considered high-end stuff even 30 years ago compared to todays stuff is like the difference between sipping a wine cooler and slugging back 6 shots of Sauza.
I agree with you. Pot is better than its ever been. I also believe that while the 5% seems like a small increase it may actually be an accurate measurement. Maybe if pot could be produced with a much higher THC concentration it might become more dangerous. I just wanted to point out that it wasn't 1000x more potent than 30 years ago.
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Well slap my ass and call me Sally.

A 5% increase sure seems like it is much much more. One thing I do know that what was considered high-end stuff even 30 years ago compared to todays stuff is like the difference between sipping a wine cooler and slugging back 6 shots of Sauza.
It's a five percentage-point increase, but actually more like a 140% increase (according to the numbers cited).
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It's a five percentage-point increase, but actually more like a 140% increase (according to the numbers cited).
How does that work?
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the concentration of THC in todays hydroponic grown stuff is probably about 1000 times more than it once was.
This is so wrong. Hydroponics is a way to grow the marijuana so you can control the environment, not because it makes higher THC levels.

The average THC level of marijuana smoked now a days is 4-6% higher than it was in the 70's, because of crossing strains. The problem was people in the 70's had to get their top quality marijuana from Columbia, where most got swag from Mexico or outdoor crap. Luckily now a days, because of hydroponics, we can replicate the ideal conditions to grow marijuana in your basement or shed.
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This is so wrong. Hydroponics is a way to grow the marijuana so you can control the environment, not because it makes higher THC levels.

The average THC level of marijuana smoked now a days is 4-6% higher than it was in the 70's, because of crossing strains. The problem was people in the 70's had to get their top quality marijuana from Columbia, where most got swag from Mexico or outdoor crap. Luckily now a days, because of hydroponics, we can replicate the ideal conditions to grow marijuana in your basement or shed.
Already discussed three posts up.
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This is so wrong. Hydroponics is a way to grow the marijuana so you can control the environment, not because it makes higher THC levels.

The average THC level of marijuana smoked now a days is 4-6% higher than it was in the 70's, because of crossing strains. The problem was people in the 70's had to get their top quality marijuana from Columbia, where most got swag from Mexico or outdoor crap. Luckily now a days, because of hydroponics, we can replicate the ideal conditions to grow marijuana in your basement or shed.
you dont have to tell me about any of that stuff....been there done that... long before most posters on this board were born.
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How does that work?
Mostly by simple math.
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At least now for the most part users of the worst drugs are forced into hiding by the law and by stigma. I don't know how I'd feel knowing that walking down the street in broad daylight that anyone passing by might be high/wrecked, broke, and looking for a fix.
Although drug use is stigmatized, the idea users are not walking around in broad daylight is laughable. People are going to find their fix no matter what time of day it is. If you know what to look for, and are actively looking for it, I can guarantee walking around downtown within 15 minutes you'll find someone whose high.

As far as legalization goes, I fully support it, and I say that as someone who hasn't smoked weed in almost a year. Making drugs illegal unnecessarily securitizes what should be a public health issue. I'm not trying to say drug use isn't harmful, it certainly can be. Even weed can be, I lament many wasted evenings spent getting baked and watching tv. But that was my choice to get high and it didn't affect anyone else besides having a positive effect on business for the 7/11 around the corner!

Portugal provides an excellent example of how effective decriminalization is. Since Portugal decriminalized all drugs in 2000, drug use in every category has declined. The number of youths smoking weed has declined more than any other EU country. The number of new AIDS/HIV and Hepatitis cases has declined significantly. The number of deaths due to drug overdose has also declined. The number of addicts seeking out treatment has increased, with most saying that the reason they didn't seek out treatment before was due to fears of arrest. Fears about drug tourism turned out to be completely unfounded. In short Portugal's experience with decriminalization has been an overwhelming success and should be the model for the rest of the world.

Heres a link to a study done by the CATO institute that backs up all of my claims.
http://www.cato.org/pubs/wtpapers/gr...whitepaper.pdf

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More recent research undertaken at the University of Mississippi's Potency Monitoring Project[50] has found that average THC levels in cannabis samples between 1975 and 2007 have increased from 4% in 1983 to 9.6% in 2007.

(0.096-0.04)/0.04 = 1.4 = 140% increase
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This is so wrong. Hydroponics is a way to grow the marijuana so you can control the environment, not because it makes higher THC levels.

The average THC level of marijuana smoked now a days is 4-6% higher than it was in the 70's, because of crossing strains. The problem was people in the 70's had to get their top quality marijuana from Columbia, where most got swag from Mexico or outdoor crap. Luckily now a days, because of hydroponics, we can replicate the ideal conditions to grow marijuana in your basement or shed.
Actually I think that's true... stuff now is something like 5-6 times stronger then what it was in the 70's. Also it's been modified for the most THC content, at the expense of some other substances such as cannibidiol (which actually has some interesting effects and benefits).
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I know it likely won't happen in my lifetime, but more than anything I'd like to see pot legalized in the US. This would decrease dramatically, if not eradicate the out of control border violence in Mexico. Yeah there'd still be coke, meth., etc. to move, but pot is the bread and butter of the Mexican cartels.

Tax the hell out of it, and JUST DO IT.
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Already discussed three posts up.
Ya I hit reply, but didn't get a chance to type anything out until a few minutes later and I was late to the party.
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Actually I think that's true... stuff now is something like 5-6 times stronger then what it was in the 70's. Also it's been modified for the most THC content, at the expense of some other substances such as cannibidiol (which actually has some interesting effects and benefits).
Except there are studies showing it hasn't risen to 5-6 times stronger. Do you have any links or studies that show higher THC equals lower cannabidiol? Honestly curious, I've never heard that before.
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I don't know that higher THC = Lower CBD levels, more that everyone has concentrated on creating higher THC levels, which has had an effect on the natural balance of the plant. The importance of CBD is only now being explored. This video sums it up a little.

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I can't see the video at work but I'll check it out when I get home. Thanks!
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I know it likely won't happen in my lifetime, but more than anything I'd like to see pot legalized in the US. This would decrease dramatically, if not eradicate the out of control border violence in Mexico. Yeah there'd still be coke, meth., etc. to move, but pot is the bread and butter of the Mexican cartels.

Tax the hell out of it, and JUST DO IT.
Because those cartels would throw up their hands say oh well and stop what they're doing.

They would move to make money in other ventures like harder drugs and guns and human smuggling, and they would fight harder over those smaller markets.

I would bet that wars over marketshare for those harder edged products would be just as if not more nasty.
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