LMAO Paladin Security.

[TurnedTheCorner]

Or just reconsider driving. Like, at all.

[TurnedTheCorner]

Sometimes there are other cars! It can be pretty harrowing on your eyes.

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by MRCboicgy

I never knew you weren't supposed to flash your high beams to tell someone to get over. I do it all the time--I guess because I have European parents, who do this all the time. Hell, when I was in Germany, I saw flashing all the time (and also on the road, by cars. ba-dum tish)

I never knew that either until the cop turned around and pulled me over, and gave me a huge ticket for it.

Ticket ended up being thrown out, but it was still a nice 30 minute time waster.

[Jake]

Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner

Or just reconsider driving. Like, at all.

Like, uh, stupid post.

Same goes for the one below it. People don't drive around with their high-beams on all the time.

[TurnedTheCorner]

Best to play it safe, probably.

[Jake]

Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner

Best to play it safe, probably.

What are you even talking about?

[TurnedTheCorner]

I am concerned for your safety. You should investigate other means of transportation. Have you considered a taxi, or perhaps even a chauffeur if you are well enough off?

[Jake]

Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner

I am concerned for your safety. You should investigate other means of transportation. Have you considered a taxi, or perhaps even a chauffeur if you are well enough off?

Right.

There's a reason it's a law to turn off your high beams when approaching another vehicle.

But you just go on thinking the high beam on/off switch in your car is made to flash other drivers with. It couldn't be made to turn them off quickly for approaching cars... no... that makes no sense.

[para transit fellow]

Originally Posted by mtbryder130

So you're saying an instantaneous on-off of the high beams blinds your for 0.5 seconds? I'm not talking leaving them on and then off. I literally flick the switch with my hand.

you mean just like a flashbulb?

trouble is the greater amount of light makes you lose what little night vision you have.

[Raekwon]

Originally Posted by Jake

Right.

There's a reason it's a law to turn off your high beams when approaching another vehicle.

But you just go on thinking the high beam on/off switch in your car is made to flash other drivers with. It couldn't be made to turn them off quickly for approaching cars... no... that makes no sense.

Where is this law?

[Jake]

Originally Posted by Raekwon

Where is this law?

See question #1.

http://www.ama.ab.ca/westworld/?/art...ing_questions/

Don't feel like going through Alberta's driving laws, but I think AMA's website is a good enough source.

[TylerSVT]

Originally Posted by Raekwon

Maybe you should reconsider driving at night it sounds like its very unsafe for you to be on the roads after dark

+1, If you cant handle someone flashing you from behind you need to get off the road.

Lets be honest here, If a cop runs up behind you his lights are 100 times brighter than high beams and will blind you more, your telling me he shouldnt do this because YOU cant seem to handle it?

And remember were talking about flash to pass, not leaving the damn things on.

[Raekwon]

Originally Posted by Jake

See question #1.

http://www.ama.ab.ca/westworld/?/art...ing_questions/

Don't feel like going through Alberta's driving laws, but I think AMA's website is a good enough source.

How about I go through it for you. The closest you get to a law about turning off your high beams would be 3(b). It appears everyone that is receiving tickets are getting them for flashing their high beams which at a stretch is an attempt to immitate an emergency vehicle. All tickets have been thrown out. But hey AMA has great roadside assistance.

Edit: copy/paste not working here is a link. Under Division 1 part 8 3(b) http://www.canlii.org/en/ab/laws/reg...-155-1997.html

[TylerSVT]

Originally Posted by Jake

Right.

There's a reason it's a law to turn off your high beams when approaching another vehicle.

But you just go on thinking the high beam on/off switch in your car is made to flash other drivers with. It couldn't be made to turn them off quickly for approaching cars... no... that makes no sense.

Huh? Pulling the stock activates the High beams as a pull switch... It is what it is designed for... nothing else. Its there to flash to pass among other reasons.

[Jake]

Originally Posted by Raekwon

How about I go through it for you. The closest you get to a law about turning off your high beams would be 3(b). It appears everyone that is receiving tickets are getting them for flashing their high beams which at a stretch is an attempt to immitate an emergency vehicle. All tickets have been thrown out. But hey AMA has great roadside assistance.

Edit: copy/paste not working here is a link. Under Division 1 part 8 3(b) http://www.canlii.org/en/ab/laws/reg...-155-1997.html

You looked under the wrong section. I doubt AMA would have something on their website that is completely false.They run driver education courses.

[Jake]

Originally Posted by TylerSVT

Huh? Pulling the stock activates the High beams as a pull switch... It is what it is designed for... nothing else. Its there to flash to pass among other reasons.

Do you see the contradiction in the same sentence? "it's designed for nothing else" and then you say "among other reasons".

Anyways, I can't believe I have to argue that you should shut off your high beams for approaching cars. It's common sense.

If you aren't turning off your high beams for other drivers, you are pissing off a lot of people off and you are really the one who shouldn't drive at night.

I feel the same goes for flashing your high beams at night to get someone's attention. It temporarily blinds drivers if they look into the bright light by accident, which may be likely since it is natural for our eyes to focus on flashing lights. Use your horn, you can hear it on the high way clearly and can be localized quite easily.

[puckluck]

Pretty sure Raekwon is right. Looks like the cop gave me the ticket to be a dick because I didn't even have to fight the ticket I got a letter in the mail about 2 weeks later saying it was thrown out. And the ticket was for distracting other drivers.

[TylerSVT]

Originally Posted by Jake

Do you see the contradiction in the same sentence? "it's designed for nothing else" and then you say "among other reasons".

Anyways, I can't believe I have to argue that you should shut off your high beams for approaching cars. It's common sense.

If you aren't turning off your high beams for other drivers, you are pissing off a lot of people off and you are really the one who shouldn't drive at night.

I feel the same goes for flashing your high beams at night to get someone's attention. It temporarily blinds drivers if they look into the bright light by accident, which may be likely since it is natural for our eyes to focus on flashing lights. Use your horn, you can hear it on the high way clearly and can be localized quite easily.

Did you even read my initial post? Im not arguing that you need to turn your high beams off when approaching other vehicles, i drive a lot of highway and deal with oblivious people all the time. I understand that.

Flashing your high beams is something built into a car, its designed to warn people and let them know stuff... like i dunno... you are going 30 under in the passing lane and maybe you should move over.

And if you cant handle someone flashing their highs at you to move over, you just shouldnt be driving, its not my responsibility to make sure you can drive in every condition, flashing your lights is a completely rational move to let someone know they are in the wrong lane.

[Jake]

Originally Posted by TylerSVT

Did you even read my initial post? Im not arguing that you need to turn your high beams off when approaching other vehicles, i drive a lot of highway and deal with oblivious people all the time. I understand that.

Flashing your high beams is something built into a car, its designed to warn people and let them know stuff... like i dunno... you are going 30 under in the passing lane and maybe you should move over.

And if you cant handle someone flashing their highs at you to move over, you just shouldnt be driving, its not my responsibility to make sure you can drive in every condition, flashing your lights is a completely rational move to let someone know they are in the wrong lane.

Yes I did, how do you think we got on to this topic? Do you think I just guessed that your turned on your high beams?

Anyways, I can see how this is going. "You shouldn't be driving", then "no you shouldn't be driving". Very productive.

Why don't you address my counter arguments? All you are doing is repeating yourself.

1) It temporarily blinds other drivers. A quick Google search shows that I'm not the only one that thinks this. There are others in this thread that have also supported that.
2) You can use your horn instead. It is definitely loud enough.
3) It's the law to turn off your high beams when approaching other vehicles. I interpret this law as absolute, meaning you cannot do it even to signal other drivers.

[Jake]

In addition to the failure to dim law, Ontario's highway traffic act specifically mentions flashing high beams:

169.
Alternating highbeams on other vehicles prohibited
(2) No person shall use highbeam headlamps that produce alternating flashes of white light on any vehicle other than a vehicle referred to in subsection (1). R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 169 (2).

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/sta...08_e.htm#BK252

Sub-section one refers to parked cars on roadway.

In the U.S.A. it is illegal in several states. It is often called the "failure to dim" law.

There you go. I'm not sure about Alberta, but in my opinion it is just common sense. Those laws were created for a reason.