PGT: Grammys

[HotHotHeat]

What's really funny to me about the whole Justin Beiber thing is the only reason all these award shows are inviting him to play is to bring in the teenage girls that otherwise wouldn't have tuned in. These flash pan acts are always around, he's just the 2011 version. So comforting to know that the Spice Girls and Backstreet Boys never won Grammy's either. The industry doesn't respect them. They get used to turn a profit then send them on their way. The problem with Bieber is that he legitimately thinks he's the next Michael Jackson.

I stil can't get over how embarrassing that scripted conversation with him and Usher was at the beginning of his performance, right before he broke out into an out of key rendition of one of his songs.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

I thought Bieber was pretty funny on Conan last night. I actually feel sorry for him. Seems like kind of a normal kid being all effed up by studio execs for the sake of his image.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

Yikes, my apologies for offending any Bieber fans out there.

You think Beiber is the first performer of that type? What rock have you been living under?

[macker]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

I thought Bieber was pretty funny on Conan last night. I actually feel sorry for him. Seems like kind of a normal kid being all effed up by studio execs for the sake of his image.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q571CjqM2Y Before the awards on Leno...Got to feel sorry for him for reasons other than him being a Leafs fan.

[red sky]

Jesus, Bieber says like so much that Leno starts to say it as well

[The Goon]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

I thought Bieber was pretty funny on Conan last night. I actually feel sorry for him. Seems like kind of a normal kid being all effed up by studio execs for the sake of his image.

Yeah, I don't know his music (I can take a guess), but from everything I've seen he seems pretty well-adjusted given his life the past couple of years. When the spotlight fades and the backlash begins, he should hopefully be able to cope - if he can't, he should just comfort himself with the piles of money he'll be sleeping on.

[Regulator75]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

I thought Bieber was pretty funny on Conan last night. I actually feel sorry for him. Seems like kind of a normal kid being all effed up by studio execs for the sake of his image.

I've never actually seen an interview the kid, overall Conan was pretty funny.

[Regulator75]

Originally Posted by red sky

Jesus, Bieber says like so much that Leno starts to say it as well

That's because Leno is a sheep.

[GGG]

The Grammy's are just to pretentious. The Best new artist award is a perfect example. Even if you don't want to go with the ridiculous commercial success of Bieber you still had Drake who has both talent and popular success.

Instead they go all pretentious and choose the 'music critics' choice. There is a reason the Grammy's have been losing out the other music awards show in terms of popularity. They just aren't relevant to average person who listens to music.

And their categories are just ridiculous. How are Muse and Pearl Jam the newest rock bands in the rock music category? Have there been no new rock bands in the past 10 years?

[BlackEleven]

Originally Posted by GGG

The Grammy's are just to pretentious. The Best new artist award is a perfect example. Even if you don't want to go with the ridiculous commercial success of Bieber you still had Drake who has both talent and popular success.

Instead they go all pretentious and choose the 'music critics' choice. There is a reason the Grammy's have been losing out the other music awards show in terms of popularity. They just aren't relevant to average person who listens to music.

And their categories are just ridiculous. How are Muse and Pearl Jam the newest rock bands in the rock music category? Have there been no new rock bands in the past 10 years?

You do realize that The Suburbs debuted at Billboard #1 in the United States, Canada and the UK? Arcade Fire has had pretty good commercial success; it's not like they picked some indy band that no one ever heard of.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by GGG

Instead they go all pretentious and choose the 'music critics' choice. There is a reason the Grammy's have been losing out the other music awards show in terms of popularity. They just aren't relevant to average person who listens to music.

To be fair, the average person listens to terrible music.

[North East Goon]

Originally Posted by GGG

The Grammy's are just to pretentious. The Best new artist award is a perfect example. Even if you don't want to go with the ridiculous commercial success of Bieber you still had Drake who has both talent and popular success.

Instead they go all pretentious and choose the 'music critics' choice. There is a reason the Grammy's have been losing out the other music awards show in terms of popularity. They just aren't relevant to average person who listens to music.

And their categories are just ridiculous. How are Muse and Pearl Jam the newest rock bands in the rock music category? Have there been no new rock bands in the past 10 years?

They were up for best rock album, not newest rock band?

[Ark2]

How does Katy Perry get nominated for best album? Her music is nothing more than generic pop crap. Granted, Lady Gaga isn't much better musically speaking, but Katy freaking Perry? Imagine if Transformers 2 got nominated for best picture at the Academy Awards. That would pretty much be the same thing...

[valo403]

Originally Posted by BlackEleven

You do realize that The Suburbs debuted at Billboard #1 in the United States, Canada and the UK? Arcade Fire has had pretty good commercial success; it's not like they picked some indy band that no one ever heard of.

You do realize that Arcade Fire wasn't mentioned at all in the post, right?

I agree with what he's saying for the most part, the Grammy's does a poor job of staying in touch with what the majority of people are into. It may be crap, but if they're trying to stay relevant to their audience they need to do a better job of that or accept a diminshing audience.

[CaptainCrunch]

Katey Perry never denies that her music is fluff californian entertainment only music. I'm not sure what Gaga is trying to do except to impress people with her weirdo genes.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by valo403

You do realize that Arcade Fire wasn't mentioned at all in the post, right?

I agree with what he's saying for the most part, the Grammy's does a poor job of staying in touch with what the majority of people are into. It may be crap, but if they're trying to stay relevant to their audience they need to do a better job of that or accept a diminshing audience.

How does it do a poor job of that? Most of the acts and nominations are top 40 artists, are they not? If anything its too mainstream. I read an article in the Guardian about the majority of their awards in the rap category have gone to Eminem and Kanye West in recent years. That's 2 major mainstream artists. 2 artists consistently getting the awards out of so many other artists that are making music in the rap/hip hop category. They aren't exactly going off the board with their selections.

Honestly if the Grammy's are too out there for you your really need to broaden your horizons beyond MuchMusic's top 5 videos -- if they even play videos anymore.

[Komskies]

Originally Posted by jar_e

Its not like Grammy's really mean anything anyways...

For example, the Rolling Stones only one 1 Grammy in 1989 and it was only a lifetime achievement award...how can someone win a lifetime achievement award when they'd never even been recognized by the Grammy Academy before.

Arcade Fire is definitely a surprise, but the exposure is worth more than the award IMO.

And Led Zeppelin didn't win any Grammies until they got their lifetime achievement award in 2005.

But Zep is greater than the Grammies will ever be.

[J pold]

Grammys in closed caption:

[JDub81]

Originally Posted by Igottago

Great to see the Arcade Fire win, if for nothing else, just to irritate people like those twitter/facebook posts. Or simpletons as I like to call them. Yeah it might sound snobby, but if you're musical pallette consists only of the mainstream acts that we normally see at these awards shows, you are hardly any type of expert let alone authority on the world of music. I'd hardly classify you as a music fan. So nice to see Arcade Fire take home the big prize.

But the Grammy still suck and are hardly worth paying attention to.

Ok, I don't get this attitude. Just because someone isn't a fan of the music that you are a fan of, they aren't a fan of music at all?

And I'm not being a jerk - I just really don't understand this attitude.

To me, music, movies and television are all about individual tastes. For the most part, I'm not into hard-core heavy metal or the super hard rap where every other word is the f word for mf or the n word. However, I recognize that this industry is consumer driven and some people like and buy that kind of music. They are music fans, just as much as I'm a music fan.

Just because I might listen to and enjoy country music - doesn't mean I'm not a music fan. Just because I don't own and Arcade Fire album, doesn't mean I'm not a music fan.

What gives someone who listens to Arcade Fire, hates Justin Bieber and Lady Gaga the right to call him or herself a music expert?

Again, to be clear, I don't mean just you and I'm not saying your opinion isn't valid, I just would like to be able to understand where you and many others who have a similar opinion, are coming from.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Usher looks like a Teletubbie