I'm not saying the Tamils were driven by religion but they weren't atheists either,95% were probably Hindus and I remember a story that there leader was thought to have converted from a Hindu to a Christian. (no idea if true)
As for the Japanese as they became more desperate the leaders convinced the pilots that being a kamikaze would be rewarded in the afterlife. Because they didn't use the words God or Muhammad doesn't mean there wasn't a form of religion for their acts.
Fact is most (not all) of these type of attacks nowdays come from religious extremists
That is mostly untrue. Most of the Japanese kamikaze pilots and bonzai chargers were motivated by a sense of racial/societal superiority and brainwashing rather than any religious reason. Death before dishonour, salvation for the mother land, service to the Emperor. All of these soldiers were required to take an oath of "courageous service to the State". You really need to do some research before issuing blanket statements like this. Shinto itself played a very small part compared to the widespread nationalistic propaganda brainwashing.
You're grasping at straws with your argument here, and your inability to discuss anything without turning it into a childish I hate GOD diatribe is wearing thin. I am agnostic myself, but your tireless "HAAH stupid god lovers you kill everyone" comments make me wish for an afterlife, just to watch St Peter or Frank or whoever say "T@T? LOL!"
Blah, your an agnostic, in otherwords confused and probably still fear.
I can guarantee one thing - the Russians will deal with this a lot different that we or the USA would.
Which hasn't really accomplished a lot - this has got to be the 4th or 5th major attack by alleged Chechen/Igush/Dagestani separatists/terrorists. The theatre in Moscow, the school in Ingushetia, at least two airplanes, and now the Moscow airport.
It's all just depressing.
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The Russians have a different viewpoint on dealing with these kind of things. they are remember what they did in the hostage taking in the cinema a few years ago.
I remember reading a book on special forces and hostage rescues.
Groups like the FBI hostage record team and the weirdo's down in Fort Bragg all have a mandate of 0 civillian casualties. Even the SAS who have a mandate of no prisoners are extremely careful when it comes to hostages.
Spetsnatz has a somewhat more lofty goal that a 50% survival rate is a good rate of surival.
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The Russians don't #!$@ around. They'll be invading / air bombing and/or shelling Chechnya within a week. That's a tried and tested response from the Russian military brass.
The Russians don't #!$@ around. They'll be invading / air bombing and/or shelling Chechnya within a week. That's a tried and tested response from the Russian military brass.
Their problem is their response seems to do nothing to stop the attacks.
And the circle will continue - the Chechens or whomever was responsible will just do it again later. This is all just so sad.
You're grasping at straws with your argument here, and your inability to discuss anything without turning it into a childish I hate GOD diatribe is wearing thin. I am agnostic myself, but your tireless "HAAH stupid god lovers you kill everyone" comments make me wish for an afterlife, just to watch St Peter or Frank or whoever say "T@T? LOL!"
Are you suggesting that you'd like T@T to burn for an eternity in the fires of hell for being a smug atheist on a message board? A little harsh, no?
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Another suicide attack from what I'm reading. Why is it so hard to stamp out extremists and the religious structures that support them?
Why is it so hard to stamp out extremists? Because they can act and look like your or me. Simply put they could be anyone anywhere at anytime.
As for the religious structures? Well that's a whole different subject. Who's to say this guy was part of any religious structure(I'm not saying he isn't, just that the article doesn't give me any evidence to the fact that he was), maybe he just didn't gel with Russia ideals, or felt strongly about something their government had done recently...or maybe he was just having a bad day. I'm not someone who's going to stick explosives to myself so I really have no idea about how one would come to that point.
I'm not a fan or religion by any means but not every extremist attack has a religious structure behind it. Honestly there are enough problems in this world without people blowing each other up. Sometimes people need to give their heads a shake.
The Russians don't #!$@ around. They'll be invading / air bombing and/or shelling Chechnya within a week. That's a tried and tested response from the Russian military brass.
Not go totally off topic, but this is why I'm looking forward to Sochi 2014 so much. They were embarrassed in Vancouver last year, I'm expecting them to go full Russian on us next time.
Lots of media outlets reporting serious 'security breaches' prior to the attack. This does not seem hard to believe as Russian police/security forces are notoriously reactive as opposed to being proactive in their approach to security threats. Many warning signs of terrorist threats go either unnoticed or are ignored and the end result can be quite horrific.
The reprisal(s) in the wake on the attack at Domodedovo Airport will most likely be archaically brutal. Soviet-style justice usually means a high body count and considerable levels of collateral damage. Life is cheap in this part of the world - it has been for the better part of 100 years. Soviets deal with death and tragedy by creating even more death and tragedy. I would expect nothing less in this case.
"There was an explosion, a bang. Then I saw a policeman covered in fragments of flesh and all bloody. He was shouting, 'I've survived! I've survived!'"
As sad as Uncle Joe's policy of mass deportation was, his policy of mass killings was more so.
So very sad.
Yeah, I agree, Uncle Joe was an interesting mix. He was the ultimate political animal, but he was fueled by paranoia and a very strange version of patriatism.
He saw himself as the Great Leader, and I think that he was the last true believer of Soviet Style socialism.
And he was a very brilliant man with a boat load of charisma.
I never did understand why he and Mao didn't get along, in the end they wanted the same things and operated the same way.
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