2012 may just have a meaning afterall

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by T@T

Go back to your friken bible, maybe god can save us

What does the bible have to do with anything? was this the whole reason you started the thread? so you can continue with your religion bashing?

[HPLovecraft]

Originally Posted by T@T

Yes, bright enough to cast a shadow, which is brighter than our moon and we likely could drive without headlights for awhile

The guy says it wouldn't be as bright as the full moon, but then goes on to say it may cast a shadow. A bit contradicting, but I'm of the mind it wouldn't cast any shadow of any sort.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by puckluck

What does the bible have to do with anything? was this the whole reason you started the thread? so you can continue with your religion bashing?

umm he wasn't the one who brought up religion, that was peter12. Leave religion out of this, this is science not science fiction.

[photon]

Originally Posted by HPLovecraft

The guy says it wouldn't be as bright as the full moon, but then goes on to say it may cast a shadow. A bit contradicting, but I'm of the mind it wouldn't cast any shadow of any sort.

Everything casts a shadow if there's a light source and something opaque. Stars cast shadows.

The question is does it cast enough light to be able to see the shadow, I've been out on clear bright full moon nights and been able to see my shadow.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by puckluck

What does the bible have to do with anything? was this the whole reason you started the thread? so you can continue with your religion bashing?

Be quiet, Peter the great brought it up and you have the nerve to spaz on me after you thanked him for it.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by photon

Everything casts a shadow if there's a light source and something opaque. Stars cast shadows.

The question is does it cast enough light to be able to see the shadow, I've been out on clear bright full moon nights and been able to see my shadow.

Lawrence Klauss (astrophysicist I think) was just interviewed on the news and said it would probably shine at about -14 (whatever that means) or about 2.5 times greater than our moon. He also said it's unlikely to happen by 2012 but did say once the star shows signs of shrinking it can go nova very fast. It is also unlikely that it could become a black hole because it's not heavy enough.

Amazes me how much they know about objects that far away

[evman150]

Originally Posted by T@T

I think what they mean is it would get tens of millions times brighter than our sun if we were the same distance from it..it already is probably a few hundred times brighter than our sun due to it's size. When a massive star goes supernova it can get brighter than the whole galaxy it came from.

If they meant that they should have said that.

And I don't need astronomy lessons pal. Betelgeuse is actually ~150,000 times brighter than the sun.

Let's talk about brightness. How many times brighter do you think the sun is compared to the moon (as they appear to us in the sky)? Make the same comparison with Venus and the moon. Try to guess without looking it up.

[ricosuave]

wow, the flames sucking hind titty sure makes people edgy 'round here!

[Radio]

Originally Posted by worth

From my link:
Also, no, our sun will not go supernova. It does not contain enough mass. It will go into a red giant phase and then eventually become a white dwarf.

I think the PC term would be "little star"

[T@T]

Originally Posted by evman150

If they meant that they should have said that.

And I don't need astronomy lessons pal. Betelgeuse is actually ~150,000 times brighter than the sun.

Let's talk about brightness. How many times brighter do you think the sun is compared to the moon (as they appear to us in the sky)? Make the same comparison with Venus and the moon. Try to guess without looking it up.

Why so irritated and arrogant? I think it was just common sense.

And without looking it up. a lot considering they don't have their own light source and are just reflecting light, unless you consider a volcano on Venus a light source.

And I'm not here to give you astronomy lessons "pal". I don't even own a telescope.

[evman150]

Originally Posted by T@T

Why so irritated and arrogant? I think it was just common sense.

And without looking it up. a lot considering they don't have their own light source and are just reflecting light, unless you consider a volcano on Venus a light source.

And I'm not here to give you astronomy lessons "pal". I don't even own a telescope.

It's not common sense at all. How bright something "appears" is called "apparent magnitude", as opposed to how bright something really is - "absolute magnitude".

It's an ignorant article, and your OP - especially the thread title - is equally ignorant. For once in my CP life, I'm going to have to agree with peter12.

[mikey_the_redneck]

I don't think the world will end on Dec. 21/2012, but based on pure speculation/guessing I think something significant will happen, including one of the following:

-maybe the world ditches the US dollar in 2012?

-ensuing economic unrest, riots, police state etc.?

-maybe the sun gives us a blast of electro-magentic radiation and ruins electrical grids all over the world?

-a large scale terror event in America?

-some kind of severe escalation of the war in the middle east? Perhaps things escalate between Israel, Iran, Pakistan etc..

-maybe North/South Korea will finally drop the mitts?

I really hope it will be an unprecedented, much publicized UFO/alien incident that shocks the world.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by evman150

It's not common sense at all. How bright something "appears" is called "apparent magnitude", as opposed to how bright something really is - "absolute magnitude".

It's an ignorant article, and your OP - especially the thread title - is equally ignorant. For once in my CP life, I'm going to have to agree with peter12.

I hope you don't take your personal life as seriously as an article from Time

Since your jeering me for posting it I suspect you do...so very sad, maybe peter12 can help you find yourself.

[Thor]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

I don't think the world will end on Dec. 21/2012, but based on pure speculation/guessing I think something significant will happen, including one of the following:

-maybe the world ditches the US dollar in 2012?

-ensuing economic unrest, riots, police state etc.?

-maybe the sun gives us a blast of electro-magentic radiation and ruins electrical grids all over the world?

-a large scale terror event in America?

-some kind of severe escalation of the war in the middle east? Perhaps things escalate between Israel, Iran, Pakistan etc..

-maybe North/South Korea will finally drop the mitts?

I really hope it will be an unprecedented, much publicized UFO/alien incident that shocks the world.

Ok, honestly dude, all the time's I've argued with you in the past, this is one post I honestly hope you seek help, that is some concerning stuff in one post, please dude talk to a professional.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by Thor

Ok, honestly dude, all the time's I've argued with you in the past, this is one post I honestly hope you seek help, that is some concerning stuff in one post, please dude talk to a professional.

First "dude", quit taking everything so seriously.

I was speculating/guessing......having some fun maybe..

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by T@T

Be quiet, Peter the great brought it up and you have the nerve to spaz on me after you thanked him for it.

Peter12 brought up hilarious irony. You brought up bashing the bible for no reason all the while insulting him and anyone who believes in god.

[Finny61]

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

-maybe the sun gives us a blast of electro-magentic radiation and ruins electrical grids all over the world?

This is a given within the next 2-3 years. Be interesting to see how we manage with no internet, sattelites, ect.. until it gets repaired.

[Kybosh]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

This is a given within the next 2-3 years. Be interesting to see how we manage with no internet, sattelites, ect.. until it gets repaired.

Why is it a given within the next 2-3 years?

[ricosuave]

I think because they are expecting a big solar flare in 2012-13