Angry UBC condo owners protest new Hospice

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by TylerSVT

Go back to China then...

That is a pretty short sighted and ignorant opinion. It is like saying "You don't like Calgary Transit policies, stay in DeWinton."

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by TylerSVT

Go back to China then...

Ah yes, the typical bigoted response whenever immigrants are part of the issue. I guess I shouldn't really expect anything different from a guy from a small town who drives a Mustang.

[Jackpot_Smooth]

Originally Posted by TylerSVT

Go back to China then...

I suppose if they don't speak english much either they should leave as well? Speak it or Leave it?

[Tinordi]

Are we a multi-cultural country or not? I always get confused...

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by Jing

Or maybe they legitimately think this way? Chinese people can be very superstitious.

Or it could be that they might think as soon as they throw out the "cultural aspect" they might be treated differently based upon the fact that people don't want to appear as being racist or attacking another culture, other than TylerSVT (who is on my ignore list but I assume his post had a tint of racism in it). Hopefully these ghosts that they worry about can't travel around because this apartment building is located 4 minutes away from the UBC Hospital and you might not believe this but people die there. The fact is they are likely worried about their property value being negatively impacted by there being a hospice next door (it is a very expensive condo after all) due to increased traffic and the other issues associated with a hospice.

[speede5]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

I don't know about 4-6 months, but it's the cultural norm for me to not let anyone in my house for at least a month after someone in their family died. Similarly, I am not supposed to go to anyone's house for that same amount of time if someone in my family died. I'm not particularly superstitious, but it keeps my parents happy, so I abide by it.

Do you avoid others altogether, or just their houses? Would you go to a friend's relatives funeral? How far down the family line does the death have to be?

[You Need a Thneed]

A 15 bed hospice would have low traffic volumes compared to the condos.

it would always be a well kept property, and always quiet.

There is absolutely nothing about a hospice that would lower property values.

Also, they have an large benefit to the community, there should be more of them.

[VladtheImpaler]

In all seriousness this is weird, and perhaps Yen can clarify this for me. Is it the fact that it's a designated "place of death" that makes it unlucky, as opposed to the nearby hospital, where there is more death, but it's incidental? Would living near a cemetary be just as unlucky?
Otherwise, as Thneed pointed out, it's not like it would have any adverse effect on the area...

[TylerSVT]

If it is about House prices and valuation i get where they are coming from.

If it is about superstition than i believe they should bugger off.

[Thor]

How does a hospice lower property values, do these people even know what they are?

They are always quiet, nonchalant places with very little traffic.

[Ozy_Flame]

I wonder if this same group would have a problem with Methadone clinics.

By their superstitious logic, unstable drug addicts bring better luck than peacefully retired seniors.

[troutman]

How do the condo owners feel about nearby frat houses?

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by Thor

How does a hospice lower property values, do these people even know what they are?

They are always quiet, nonchalant places with very little traffic.

It's both a superstition and home value issue. The home values would only decrease because the target buyers for the area "chinese" don't want to buy there because of superstition.

So the comments from some saying it's not about superstition, it's about home values and they're just faking the superstition part don't make any sense.

[Thor]

lol well put, thanks.

[WilsonFourTwo]

Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

A 15 bed hospice would have low traffic volumes compared to the condos.

it would always be a well kept property, and always quiet.

There is absolutely nothing about a hospice that would lower property values.

Also, they have an large benefit to the community, there should be more of them.

I think people should think about Rosedale Hospice here in Calgary. It's a beautiful place in an amazing community. And before I hear about friggin' property values, the Hospice is on the same street as (and fits in with):

http://www.realtor.ca/propertyDetail...idKey=31649540

These people can hide behind their hocus-pocus as much as they like. It's NIMBY (pure and simple) and they can pretty much go screw themselves.

[WilsonFourTwo]

Originally Posted by fotze

That house has been for sale forever it seems. I remember when it was being built, it collapsed. Not sure if the two things are related.

Okay, we'll ignore the $3.25 million dollar home. Instead, let's just generalize about the other multi-million dollar homes in the area that sell just fine.

The point is still very much a valid one.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

What I'd like to see happen is for these Chinese purchasers to sue the developer. Would make for a very interesting case. A strong argument can be made that, given their strongly held beliefs, material facts were withheld that would have affected their decision to purchase...

And unless you can prove that plans existed for a hospice at that location before they bought, you have no argument at all.

Indeed, the article implies this is a newly picked location. Seems they tried to build close to a university dorm but got shouted down by whiny students.

[TheyCallMeBruce]

Originally Posted by fotze

That house has been for sale forever it seems. I remember when it was being built, it collapsed. Not sure if the two things are related.

That's because it's cursed by GHOST.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

And unless you can prove that plans existed for a hospice at that location before they bought, you have no argument at all.

Indeed, the article implies this is a newly picked location. Seems they tried to build close to a university dorm but got shouted down by whiny students.

Of course. Presumably the developer knew what this hood was zoned for. I wonder if the off-shore buyers knew? I wonder if the realtors did proper due diligence? Maybe everybody discharged their duty appropriately, and the buyers should have known that a "death factory" could show up in their hood. In that case, caveat emptor.

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by WilsonFourTwo

I think people should think about Rosedale Hospice here in Calgary. It's a beautiful place in an amazing community. And before I hear about friggin' property values, the Hospice is on the same street as (and fits in with):

http://www.realtor.ca/propertyDetail...idKey=31649540

These people can hide behind their hocus-pocus as much as they like. It's NIMBY (pure and simple) and they can pretty much go screw themselves.

Rosedale Hospice is exactly what I was thinking about, since my mom lived the last 72 hours of her life there. Roughly the same size as the one proposed in Vancouver. On a really small street.

http://maps.google.ca/?ie=UTF8&ll=51...12,155.61,,0,5
Google Maps Streetview link. That's it on the left.