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Old 01-13-2011, 04:40 PM   #41
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For sure?

Several older folks in my office said the song referred to Boy George.
Only something I heard today too. I'm too lazy to look it up.
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Old 01-13-2011, 05:06 PM   #42
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who the heck are Dire Straights?

I googled them and apparently they were with John Lennon when he wrote 'Imagine', so I guess I kinda did know their music.
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I could have sworn it was about David Bowie
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Arabs should demand a ban of Sultans of Swing. It's culturally insensitive to suggest sultans -- a title that carries moral weight and religious authority -- would 'swing.' You are a sick, hateful man, Mark Knopfler!
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Only something I heard today too. I'm too lazy to look it up.
Look backwards in the thread for wiki reference.
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It's funny what they will censor in music.

The other day I was flipping through the crappy radio stations in town here when they were playing a Nickelback (yeah I know) song. I noticed that they cancelled the word "bong" out of the song but kept in the words a$$ and b!tch. Like......10 year olds can listen to this stuff.
My absolute favourite bad edit was Tom Petty's "You Don't Know How it Feels". First they very poorly edited "lets roll another joint" so that it became "lets roll another #scrunge#" (yes, that is what it sounded like). About FIVE YEARS after the song came out, some genius realized how terrible that sounded, and edited it to "lets go to another joint". I shake my head at both cuts.

I also heard an edit of Papa Roach's "Last Resort" that not only censored the F word, but also "suicide".

As far as Money for Nothing goes, I'm fine with not hearing the song ever again, but this is just political correct nonsense.
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My absolute favourite bad edit was Tom Petty's "You Don't Know How it Feels". First they very poorly edited "lets roll another joint" so that it became "lets roll another #scrunge#" (yes, that is what it sounded like). About FIVE YEARS after the song came out, some genius realized how terrible that sounded, and edited it to "lets go to another joint". I shake my head at both cuts.

I also heard an edit of Papa Roach's "Last Resort" that not only censored the F word, but also "suicide".

As far as Money for Nothing goes, I'm fine with not hearing the song ever again, but this is just political correct nonsense.
Another one is Everlast's- What It's Like. There must be 15 edits in that song. Including "god", "balls", "whore", "smoke", "green", "drugs", "gun", "chrome .45".
Why even bother releasing it?
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It seems that the frenzy over this "ban" is pretty fierce, so allow me to play devil's advocate. Preface: I am personally not offended by language in music, and believe that a little cussing doesn't diminish a good song nor does it make a bad song better. I'd never complain about the language in a song on the radio, let alone expect it to be edited/banned/etc.

That being said, a couple of things to keep in mind are:

- The Canadian Broadcast Standards Council is a self-regulating body for broadcasters. This isn't the CRTC or some other government agency telling people what they should listen to, this is the industry itself setting guidelines to adhere to.

- The song itself isn't banned. Radio stations are simply not able to play the version with the word in question in it. This isn't unusual at all for radio stations to bow a little bit to their regulatory body and ultimately their easily offended (politically correct, prudish, etc.) listeners.

I don't listen to radio much anymore, particularly the C-Jay's of the world. Does anyone actually know if the unedited version was actually played on the radio? I (perhaps incorrectly) assumed that the radio edit would be the norm. I haven't ever listened closely to the song and don't recall what version I may have heard.

So is this a case of "much ado about nothing" where the people upset about it don't actually ever hear the word? Nobody likes to be told what they can't listen to, but perhaps they haven't been listening to it that way all along anyway.

And again, I like songs in their original state. Radiohead's "Creep" with the f-bomb is way more powerful than saying "you're so very special". But it would be a tad melodramatic to say that the song is all of sudden banned from the radio (although technically it always has been) when in fact we've been listening to the radio edit the whole time.
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its funny how this is an issue, but a song like brown sugar gets play, and is sung by arguably everyone...

Gold coast slave ship bound for cotton fields
Sold in a market down in New Orleans
Scarred old slaver knows he's doing alright
Hear him with the women just around midnight

Brown sugar how come you taste so good?
Brown sugar just like a young girl should

Drums beating, cold English blood runs hot
Lady of the house wonderin' when it's gonna stop
House boy knows that he's doing alright
You shoulda heard him just around midnight

Brown sugar how come you taste so good, now?
Brown sugar just like a young girl should, now

Ah, get along, brown sugar how come you taste so good, baby?
Ah, got me feelin' now, brown sugar just like a black girl should

I bet your mama was a tent show queen
And all her boyfriends were sweet sixteen
I'm no schoolboy but I know what I like
You shoulda heard me just around midnight

Brown sugar how come you taste so good, baby?
Ah, brown sugar just like a young girl should, yeah

I said yeah, yeah, yeah, woo
How come you...how come you taste so good?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, woo
Just like a...just like a black girl should
Yeah, yeah, yeah, woo
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Editorial in the Globe and Mail.

This is sure getting a lot of press!

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Frank Zappa's appearance at the PMRC Hearings is classic:

http://www.joesapt.net/superlink/shr...ml#fztestimony

No one has forced Mrs. Baker or Mrs. Gore to bring Prince or Sheena Easton into their homes. Thanks to the Constitution, they are free to buy other forms of music for their children. Apparently, they insist on purchasing the works of contemporary recording artists in order to support a personal illusion of aerobic sophistication. Ladies, please be advised: The $8.98 purchase price does not entitle you to a kiss on the foot from the composer or performer in exchange for a spin on the family Victrola.

Taken as a whole, the complete list of PMRC demands reads like an instruction manual for some sinister kind of toilet training program to house-break all composers and performers because of the lyrics of a few. Ladies, how dare you?

While the wife of the Secretary of the Treasury recites "Gonna drive my love inside you" and Senator Gore's wife talks about "bondage" and "oral sex at gunpoint" on the CBS Evening News, people in high places work on a tax bill that is so ridiculous, the only way to sneak it through is to keep the public's mind on something else: Porn rock.

Is the basic issue morality? Is it mental health? Is it an issue at all? The PMRC has created a lot of confusion with improper comparisons between song lyrics, videos, record packaging, radio broadcasting, and live performances. These are all different mediums and the people who work in them have the right to conduct their business without trade-restraining legislation, whipped up like an instant pudding by "The wives of Big Brother."

Children in the vulnerable age bracket have a natural love for music. If as a parent you believe they should be exposed to something more uplifting than "Sugar Walls," support music appreciation programs in schools. Why have you not considered your child's need for consumer information? Music appreciation costs very little . . .
The best part of those hearings was the fact that John Denver showed up to support the musicians. Absolutely priceless.

I am opposed. As an artist, I am opposed to any kind of a rating system, voluntarily or otherwise. I think putting lyrics on the sleeve of an album or a jacket of an album is no problem for me.

Again, I think it goes beyond reading the words, and I bring up again the song "Rocky Mountain High." You know, some people, high is high, and high is getting stoned and high is a feeling of elation, celebration of life.

As I told the people of the Soviet Union when I had the privilege of singing for them there, I sang "Rocky Mountain High" and then I described what "high" meant to me. And I said to them, that is how I feel having the privilege of singing for you.

That is how I feel having the opportunity to participate in my Government here today.

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I still have no idea what I'm doing when I think about Alannis Morrisette.
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who the heck are Dire Straights?

I googled them and apparently they were with John Lennon when he wrote 'Imagine', so I guess I kinda did know their music.
I guess loud bands that use insensitive lyrics is a scourge on humanity regardless of which century you live in.
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I'm probably in the minority here, but less Dire Straits songs on the radio is music to my ears! Cant stand them...
I fart in your general direction good sir.
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I guess loud bands that use insensitive lyrics is a scourge on humanity regardless of which century you live in.
More importantly, I had no idea you were a Bourbon.
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I'm a big Knopfler fan but I actually hate the Money for Nothing song. Maybe it's the horrid music video with the prehistoric computer animated movers and the neon painted-on guitars.
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I'm a big Knopfler fan but I actually hate the Money for Nothing song. Maybe it's the horrid music video with the prehistoric computer animated movers and the neon painted-on guitars.
Product of its era. Beatles were in black and white for the most part.

Killer riff though. That withstands the test of time.
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As long as they don't ban this one:

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Product of its era. Beatles were in black and white for the most part.

Killer riff though. That withstands the test of time.
It's probably more that I really loved the intro of the song with the syncopated synth and drums and ghostly Sting going "I want my MTV" and I was really anticipating the rest of the song because wanted an entire song in that style. Then it busted out into a completely different style and it annoyed me when I first heard it. Then I saw the music video.
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