11-30-2018, 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
If you really want him you could swing a trade with an earlier placed team to claim him for you.
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I could be wrong but I don't think that you can trade a player freshly claimed off of waivers. I think that they must remain on your nhl roster for the remainder of the season and must clear waivers in order to be moved again.
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11-30-2018, 12:51 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
If you really want him you could swing a trade with an earlier placed team to claim him for you.
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Not really.
If a team tries to trade a player they claimed off waivers in that same season, they have to offer him to any team that put in a claim on him before the trade can be completed.
For example, if the Kings claimed Zykov and then tries to trade him to the Flames so that the Flames can bypass the Oilers claim in waiver priority, it wouldn't work because the Kings have to offer him to the Oilers before Zykov can be traded to the Flames.
Last edited by sureLoss; 11-30-2018 at 12:59 AM.
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11-30-2018, 06:24 AM
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#43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
For example, if the Kings claimed Zykov and then tries to trade him to the Flames so that the Flames can bypass the Oilers claim in waiver priority, it wouldn't work because the Kings have to offer him to the Oilers before Zykov can be traded to the Flames.
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How exactly does this work regarding acquisition price,
I mean, what if the Kings wanted a 2nd for Zykov but the Oilers were only willing to trade a 3rd for him... but the Flames were willing to pay the 2nd for Zykov?
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11-30-2018, 06:51 AM
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#44
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I learn so much on this site.
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11-30-2018, 07:02 AM
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#45
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David Struch
How exactly does this work regarding acquisition price,
I mean, what if the Kings wanted a 2nd for Zykov but the Oilers were only willing to trade a 3rd for him... but the Flames were willing to pay the 2nd for Zykov?
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It doesn't mean the Kings have to offer him to the Oilers in a trade in this scenario, it means that they basically have to put him back on waiver availability to any team that also put in a claim when the Kings initially claimed him. Unless I'm understanding it wrong.
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11-30-2018, 07:24 AM
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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^ Otherwise couldn't they just decline any trade unless it blows them away and a team overpays? There would have to be a fail-safe in there.
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11-30-2018, 07:38 AM
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#47
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First Line Centre
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Serious question....can the Oilers even afford him? After the Wideman trade I didn't think they had any space.
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11-30-2018, 07:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Not really.
If a team tries to trade a player they claimed off waivers in that same season, they have to offer him to any team that put in a claim on him before the trade can be completed.
For example, if the Kings claimed Zykov and then tries to trade him to the Flames so that the Flames can bypass the Oilers claim in waiver priority, it wouldn't work because the Kings have to offer him to the Oilers before Zykov can be traded to the Flames.
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Does that stipulation last the whole season?
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11-30-2018, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Yamer
Does that stipulation last the whole season?
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Yes.
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11-30-2018, 08:23 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David Struch
How exactly does this work regarding acquisition price,
I mean, what if the Kings wanted a 2nd for Zykov but the Oilers were only willing to trade a 3rd for him... but the Flames were willing to pay the 2nd for Zykov?
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There is no acquisition price in terms of assets. The Oilers just pay the Kings whatever $ amount the Kings paid to take him off waivers. In Zykov's case, the cost to claim him off waivers is ~$41k IIRC. For the Kings to claim him they pay $41k to the Canes. Then in this scenario, the Kings must offer him to the Oilers for $41k before they can trade him to the Flames.
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Originally Posted by Yamer
Does that stipulation last the whole season?
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Yes for the same season and playoffs the player was claimed in.
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11-30-2018, 08:36 AM
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#51
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Man, I was really pulling for Darling, he seemed like he was going to put it together in Carolina.
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11-30-2018, 09:06 AM
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Franchise Player
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3 points in 13 games is still 3 points in 13 games.
He hasn't established himself as are regular NHLer.
I'd be Ok if the Flames take a crack at it, but I don't share the same surprise that he's on waivers.
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11-30-2018, 09:12 AM
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#53
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I remember wanting Zykov back in his draft year. Seem to remember him putting up decent numbers in the Q. Plus his name is pretty awesome. Plus the whole 2013 thing.
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11-30-2018, 09:16 AM
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#54
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
3 points in 13 games is still 3 points in 13 games.
He hasn't established himself as are regular NHLer.
I'd be Ok if the Flames take a crack at it, but I don't share the same surprise that he's on waivers.
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I just want to know why the on-ice SH% is 1.85%. For him and his teammates to be shooting that, that’s horrible luck. Double it and that still doesn’t come close to a regular number. His shot metrics are very impressive (granted, he plays on the Hurricanes, but even then...).
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11-30-2018, 09:36 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary
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Following the Hurricanes in the pre-season, Zykov was a popular pick to be the most impactful rookie on that team.
1.85% on ice is absurd. That is absolutely a player that needs to be claimed.
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11-30-2018, 10:03 AM
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#56
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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News UpdateElliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
EDM claims Zykov
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11-30-2018, 10:04 AM
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Thoughts and prayers to Zykov and his family.
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11-30-2018, 10:04 AM
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#58
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
EDM claims Zykov
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Balls.
Well....they'll ruin him. If he thought his situation was grim in Carolina he ain't seen nothing yet...
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11-30-2018, 10:09 AM
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#59
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They have like 50 Grand in cap space how does this fit in do they have a bunch of guys on long-term injury?
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11-30-2018, 10:10 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by btimbit
They have like 50 Grand with a cap space how does this fit in do they have a bunch of guys on long-term injury?
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They are at a 24 man roster with Zykov. They will probably send someone down to the AHL for the cap space.
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