04-17-2024, 11:24 AM
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#41
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Duclair is almost PPG with Tampa. He was misused in SJ.
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And I'll be ready to watch him disappear again in the playoffs, like he does. Meanwhile Verhaege is an absolute playoff stud.
It's a totally absurd take.
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04-17-2024, 11:25 AM
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#42
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Franchise Player
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Panthers in 7. Battle of Florida should be fun
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04-17-2024, 12:37 PM
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#43
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Mar 2024
Location: Victoria, BC
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04-17-2024, 01:01 PM
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#44
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Barkov and Tkachuk, yes. Reinhart has had a great season but I'm not convinced yet. The rest are OK depth. Bob is the wild card.
Kucherov > Tkachuk. Point = Barkov. Stamkos > Reinhart. Hedman > Forsling. Vasilevskiy > Bobrovsky. Hagel > Tarasenko. Duclair = Verhaege. Bennett = Cirelli. Raddysh > Ekblad.
Top end plus goaltending is going to usually win out.
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Is this evaluation based entirely on points? Yikes. Thinking Point is even close to the all around player Barkov is....I don't know what to say.
And you should see Reinhart as one of the most lethal goal scorers in the game today. He's always been good for around 30, but took it up another notch again.
I'll also say this: Verhaeghe is a fantastic playoff performer. He always kicks it up a notch come playoffs. Equal to Duclair??? *shakes head*
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04-17-2024, 01:03 PM
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#45
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Toronto
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Tampa is one of those teams you do not want to face in the playoffs. I'm smelling an upset in this one.
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04-17-2024, 01:05 PM
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#46
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Franchise Player
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There really aren't any easy outs in the playoffs anymore...maybe the caps
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04-17-2024, 01:11 PM
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#47
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
Is this evaluation based entirely on points? Yikes. Thinking Point is even close to the all around player Barkov is....I don't know what to say.
And you should see Reinhart as one of the most lethal goal scorers in the game today. He's always been good for around 30, but took it up another notch again.
I'll also say this: Verhaeghe is a fantastic playoff performer. He always kicks it up a notch come playoffs. Equal to Duclair??? *shakes head*
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No. It's based on Point being better offensively versus Barkov being better defensively. IMO it's a wash at the end of the day.
Bottom line, you can disagree on a couple players but IMO TB has more top end players and more PO experience. And this is their last kick at it, so they are going to be more desperate.
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04-17-2024, 01:29 PM
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#48
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Right behind you.
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Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
I hope everyone can get on board the Panther train for this one.
We all hate Tampa (it was in), and we all have a soft spot for former Flames (Tkachuk, Bennett, Lomberg) and the sons of former Flames (Reinhart).
Don't make me beg. Let's go Panthers!
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We got your back Cali - Let's Go Panthers!
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04-17-2024, 02:16 PM
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#49
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Panthers in 7.
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04-17-2024, 03:51 PM
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#50
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
No. It's based on Point being better offensively versus Barkov being better defensively. IMO it's a wash at the end of the day.
Bottom line, you can disagree on a couple players but IMO TB has more top end players and more PO experience. And this is their last kick at it, so they are going to be more desperate.
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Barkov is miles better defensively though, and offensively it's probably a wash (their point per game rates are virtually identical). Barkov is a +33 and Point is a -14.
I disagree on almost every player you compared, except Kucherov. Most of these guys have good offensive numbers because they've sacrificed their defense this year to produce. The Panthers are putting up similar numbers, but are the best defensive team in the league, and have TWO goalies that put up great numbers this year. Vasy's numbers aren't great, but I don't put a lot of that on him. That Tampa team is really weak defensively.
But then look at the depth between these teams and it's not even close. At both forward and defense, the Panthers are far more effective on their lower lines and defense pairings.
Yes, they have playoff experience, and they do still have some talent, so the Panthers will still have to play their best game to beat them, but if they play like they've played all year, it will become obvious pretty quickly that they are the far better team.
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If we can't fall in love with replaceable bottom 6 players then the terrorists have won.
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04-17-2024, 04:23 PM
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#51
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GOAT!
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Tampa may have won the two COVID Cups, but they haven't won anything since Blake Goalman left town.
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04-17-2024, 04:32 PM
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#52
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Franchise Player
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Lightnings in 7. Or, Tkachuk's gonna get hurt again and Panthers going down in a sweep next round.
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04-17-2024, 04:47 PM
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#53
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Since the calendar flipped to 2023, the Panthers have won 4 of 5 against the Bolts while outscoring them 26-11.
Panteros in 6.
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04-17-2024, 04:49 PM
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#54
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Franchise Player
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regular season is irrelevant
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04-17-2024, 05:03 PM
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#55
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GOAT!
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Originally Posted by dino7c
regular season is irrelevant
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Weird. Last season the Panthers were gonna lose every playoff round because they sucked in the regular season, and only made the playoffs with one more point than Calgary.
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04-17-2024, 05:03 PM
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#56
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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Bennett = Cirelli?
playoff Sam Bennett? It's not a myth.
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04-17-2024, 06:00 PM
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#57
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FanIn80
Weird. Last season the Panthers were gonna lose every playoff round because they sucked in the regular season, and only made the playoffs with one more point than Calgary.
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LESS, one LESS
Get it right, and I'm talking about a head to head regular season record, it's not relevant. You expect the Jets to beat the Avs 7-0?
And we all can't be Notrodomus going 2-2 on Panthers series last playoffs like you
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Last edited by dino7c; 04-18-2024 at 12:21 AM.
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04-17-2024, 06:15 PM
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#58
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dustygoon
Bennett = Cirelli?
playoff Sam Bennett? It's not a myth.
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Cirelli produces nicely in the POs as well, and his similar stats are from the 3C position, not the 2C. Plus he's a better defensive player.
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04-18-2024, 05:45 AM
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#59
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Franchise Player
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Game 1
Sunday, April 21, at Florida on Sportsnet, ESPN, and TVA Sports 1030h Mountain time
The rest of the series is TBA/TBD
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MOD EDIT: Removed broken image link.
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04-18-2024, 06:10 AM
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#60
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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WTF? A noon start time? The other game is at 3 and there's nothing in the evening. Why? Why schedule it like this?
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If we can't fall in love with replaceable bottom 6 players then the terrorists have won.
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