2018/2019 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I am pretty happy with the progress on the left side, personally. The kids are getting ice-time, and they are making the most of it and growing with each game. Last night, Kylington and Andersson were fantastic against a very big, very physical, and very talented set of forwards. In their barn. Looking at the left side, it seems pretty solid to me:

Giordano
Hanifin
Valimaki
Kylington

If you are going to spend assets to try and fix a weakness on the roster, this is not the top of the priority list IMO.

I agree. I don't see defense as an area in need of addition as we also have 4 capable defenders who play the rightside as well.

If we are going to add it should be a RHed top 9 forward as that is our biggest area of need.

[Iniggywetrust]

Originally Posted by thymebalm

What do we figure the chances are that Treliving takes a big swing at the trade deadline to bolster the team? What do we perceive as the biggest area of need? And for my real question, what is the likelihood of that acquisition being Kevin Hayes, and what would the costs associated with that transaction?

I think we need a better option at 2C. Backlund Isn't back in that role but our can be improved at the position to help put us over the top. That puts Backlund in a 3c shut down role.

I think back to when the kings won with Carter Richards and Kopitar.

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[Yoho]

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[Flash Walken]

Benn for tarasenko

[thymebalm]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

What are we supposed to do with the two fake questions? Is this like a magic trick? I don't get it.

I suppose because you’d have to answer both of the first two questions with Yes, a “big RW that could have Johnny chemistry and move Lindholm to a line with Tkachuk and finally move Backlund to his destined position as 3C.” Before you could agree to my third proposition. But I’m still curious to know if you think otherwise and what that looks like as opposed to what I think would be a good acquisition.

Any interest in trading away our 1st round pick? Do we even have one?

[Roof-Daddy]

I worry that the "big 4" up front won't be able to continue their torrid scoring paces.

Gaudreau - 110 point pace
Monahan - 92 point pace
Tkachuk - 91 point pace
Lindholm - 89 point pace

If they can do that all year, great. But what are the chances of having four 90+ point forwards on the same roster? Especially when all four are on pace for new career highs?

If they start to drop of at all, the scoring is pretty thin after those guys.

Backlund - 42 point pace
Jankowski - 29 point pace
Bennett - 26 point pace
Ryan - 24 point pace

Hopfully Frolik can come back strong soon, and hopefully Neal can pull his head out of his ass soon as well (16 point pace!! WTF dude?!)

But really, this teams biggest need in my mind is another strong two way center that is at least at Backlund's level, but preferably even better.

Really too bad BT didn't snag ROR last summer, as that acquisition would have not only bolstered our center depth but it would have kept BT from signing Neal as well (a signing a loved at the time BTW).

Granted, nobody in our division, or even in the western conference has really frightening center depth, if you want to win a Cup and the Flames actually make it to the finals, they will be in tough in a 7 game series against any eastern contenders like Tampa (Point, Stamkos), Toronto (Matthews, Tavares, Kadri), Pittsburgh (Crosby, Malkin) or Washington (Backstrom, Kuznetzov), especially if Monahan or Backlund are injured/banged up.

[PepsiFree]

Tough to say what we need, especially two months out from the trade deadline.

If everything remains the same? A secondary scoring threat at center.
If the first line faulters? A secondary scoring threat at RW (move Lindholm down to 2C)
If Rittich faulters? A goaltender.

But there are a few situations where we need absolutely nothing. Neal coming online, Bennett getting into a scoring groove, Frolik coming back and playing like the Frolik of old, Jankowski taking a step, etc.

Right now we have an incredible first line, a great "secondary" LW and good LW depth, great upfront talent and depth on D, an excellent starter, great shutdown options down the middle, good "grinder" types to play the body. So scoring in the middle six is really the only thing that might give us a little boost, but I'm not even sure it'd be worth the acquisition cost with where we are today.

[Vinny01]

The biggest missing piece on the Flames I think is another solid center. Obviously goaltending would be a concern if Rittich wasn’t so lights out but he has been very soood this year. If the Flames could upgrade on Jankowski/Ryan and push Backlund to the 3 spot that would make their team very tough to beat.

How much value does a Jankowski, 1st, Mangiapane/Foo package get in return?

[neo45]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

The biggest missing piece on the Flames I think is another solid center. Obviously goaltending would be a concern if Rittich wasn’t so lights out but he has been very soood this year. If the Flames could upgrade on Jankowski/Ryan and push Backlund to the 3 spot that would make their team very tough to beat.

How much value does a Jankowski, 1st, Mangiapane/Foo package get in return?

Probably a really good rental (that’s a Kovalchuk like return) but in terms of young centers signed with term that are available I can’t really even think of any options.

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

The biggest missing piece on the Flames I think is another solid center. Obviously goaltending would be a concern if Rittich wasn’t so lights out but he has been very soood this year. If the Flames could upgrade on Jankowski/Ryan and push Backlund to the 3 spot that would make their team very tough to beat.

How much value does a Jankowski, 1st, Mangiapane/Foo package get in return?

I wouldn't lose too much sleep over trading any of those assets but in all honesty I'd rather keep Janko.

I can understand the sentiment of adding another center to the mix however as we do need another top 9 forward.

[prizefighterinferno]

Originally Posted by neo45

Probably a really good rental (that’s a Kovalchuk like return) but in terms of young centers signed with term that are available I can’t really even think of any options.

Brayden Schenn.

IMO, beyond him, you're looking for guys who can play top-six C/RW. Sensible and realistic UFA options beyond Schenn (either upgrading the Tkachuk-Backlund pairing on line 2 or allowing Lindholm to move down to L2 and Backlund to L3 at ES) are Hayes or Gustav Nyquist (played with Backlund at the World Championship last year).

So, in order of preference, I think I'd go Schenn (1 year remaining), Hayes, Nyqvist, but I suspect Nyquist will be the easiest to acquire.

Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Backlund-Nyqvist
Bennett-Jankowski-Neal
Frolik-Ryan-Hathaway

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by neo45

Probably a really good rental (that’s a Kovalchuk like return) but in terms of young centers signed with term that are available I can’t really even think of any options.

I would really want to avoid giving up our first for a rental. Someone with term would be ideal. Kadri/Schenn would be ideal type fits imo.

[dammage79]

I'd go after Nyquist. But I don't think we need more forwards. Why do we need more forwards?

Still think you save your ammo for a goalie. Should be top priority. Then you look at Nyquist types. Would be fun to grab him. Move Chuckles up to RW#1 Have an all swede line of Nyquist-Backlund-Lindholm.

[868904]

The missing piece for the Flames is a consistent 20 goal / 40 point power winger who plays on the edge.

I wonder where they could find one of those?

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I'd go after Nyquist. But I don't think we need more forwards. Why do we need more forwards?

Still think you save your ammo for a goalie. Should be top priority. Then you look at Nyquist types. Would be fun to grab him. Move Chuckles up to RW#1 Have an all swede line of Nyquist-Backlund-Lindholm.

We are fairly weak at center behind Monahan and Backlund. Jankowski and Ryan have regressed from last season and neither seems like a solid fit for the third line. While Lindholm could potentially shift to center in a pinch he has been such an amazing fit on the top line it makes no sense in breaking that up.

Getting a legit center could also help get James Neal going. Imagine how dominant this team would be with an improved player down the middle and Neal at the level we all expected? I think they would be clear cut #1 in the West.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

We are fairly weak at center behind Monahan and Backlund. Jankowski and Ryan have regressed from last season and neither seems like a solid fit for the third line. While Lindholm could potentially shift to center in a pinch he has been such an amazing fit on the top line it makes no sense in breaking that up.

Getting a legit center could also help get James Meal going. Imagine how dominant this team would be with an improved player down the middle and Neal at the level we all expected? I think they would be clear cut #1 in the West.

Maybe, but there’s also a fair chance we acquire a player to “improve” down the middle and it doesn’t make much of a difference. Imagine if Neal just played better, we’d be clear cut #1 in the West.

Plus, Janko is improving as he goes. Looking more like a shutdown guy that an offensive star, but I wouldn’t say he’s regressed overall from last season.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Trading Jankowski would be a mistake IMO. All he does is make the most of the limited opportunities he is given. He's a long term cost controlled player that will continue to provide quality minutes from the bottom half of the lineup and continue to help this team win. I'd move Bennett long before I move Jankowski, and I would not be inclined to move any of our forwards at this time. We have plenty of talent up front. The only position I would look to upgrade would be in goal, and only if the cost was minimal.

[Vinny01]

I see Jankowski a slightly better Colborne and I do not see him more valuable than Bennett who has done a nice job of impacting the game in other areas than the stat sheet. Not saying we need to dump Janko but if we could move him and a 1st for Schenn or Kadri who would be longer term players that fit our needs perfectly.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I see Jankowski a slightly better Colborne and I do not see him more valuable than Bennett who has done a nice job of impacting the game in other areas than the stat sheet. Not saying we need to dump Janko but if we could move him and a 1st for Schenn or Kadri who would be longer term players that fit our needs perfectly.

Then you’re not really seeing him, to be blunt.

As noted recently, he’s a penalty-killing machine. That’s a huge skill to have on the team.

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by New Era

Trading Jankowski would be a mistake IMO. All he does is make the most of the limited opportunities he is given. He's a long term cost controlled player that will continue to provide quality minutes from the bottom half of the lineup and continue to help this team win. I'd move Bennett long before I move Jankowski, and I would not be inclined to move any of our forwards at this time. We have plenty of talent up front. The only position I would look to upgrade would be in goal, and only if the cost was minimal.

I agreed with you until these points:

a) I don't want to move either of Bennett or Janko but if I had to pick it would be to keep Bennett. I hope both are here long term and if need be I'd move Mangiapane before either.

b) We need another forward. Peters has dressed 11 forwards consistently when they are all healthy and has been rotating Czarnik, Dube, Mangiapane, Peluso, Quine and Lomberg in and out of the lineup. Another (preferably RHed) top 9 forward would go a long way to solidifying the lineup.

I was on the aquire a goalie train earlier in the year but I don't have a problem rolling with Rittich as the starter and Smith as the backup.