Ongoing Sci-Fi, Comic Book Movie Thread v2

[Wastedyouth]

WTF greenlit Madame Web.

Seriously, what a dumb ####ing idea and decision.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

WTF greenlit Madame Web.

Seriously, what a dumb ####ing idea and decision.

What? You dont want to do a 'Birds of Prey/Madame Web' double header?

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

WTF greenlit Madame Web.

Seriously, what a dumb ####ing idea and decision.

It's this weird obsession with attacking/ exploiting every possible spiderman angle. Fortunately most of it has actually turned out great (or so bad that they are perversely good a la Morbius.)

[OutOfTheCube]

I think because Venom was a bad movie but still such a hit they just assumed everything Spider-Man adjacent would be as well, and then went ahead the dumbest and least appealing properties possible.

Morbius? Madame Web? Kraven the Hunter?

It'd be like WB seeing the success of their solo Joker movie and greenlighting Killer Moth and Calendar Man movies. I'm surprised they didn't.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

I think because Venom was a bad movie but still such a hit they just assumed everything Spider-Man adjacent would be as well, and then went ahead the dumbest and least appealing properties possible.

Morbius? Madame Web? Kraven the Hunter?

It'd be like WB seeing the success of their solo Joker movie and greenlighting Killer Moth and Calendar Man movies. I'm surprised they didn't.

The idea of giving villains their own movie only really works if its a very large and iconic villain, like on the level of the Joker. Venom is the only "villain", or even side character, in that universe who should be carrying their own film.

Spiderman is certainly worthy of his own set of films, but the idea that you can build a Spiderman universe, based on a bunch of stand alone films, is absurd. The Spiderman villains are, by their nature, corny and silly. Most are animal themed.

I like the approach that WB is taking with the Pattison Batman. You've got the Batman and then a few tv series to explore the universe and some of the side characters. The Joker, in my opinion, really only worked as a one time thing. The new movie looks very questionable. I guess when you have a movie gross 1 billion dollars on a $50-70 million budget, you try and play it out again.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

I think because Venom was a bad movie but still such a hit they just assumed everything Spider-Man adjacent would be as well, and then went ahead the dumbest and least appealing properties possible.

Morbius? Madame Web? Kraven the Hunter?

It'd be like WB seeing the success of their solo Joker movie and greenlighting Killer Moth and Calendar Man movies. I'm surprised they didn't.

We all want the Calendar Man movie. Get him to team up with Polka-Dot Man and you'd have one of the biggest hits of the DCEU!

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

I think because Venom was a bad movie but still such a hit they just assumed everything Spider-Man adjacent would be as well, and then went ahead the dumbest and least appealing properties possible.

Morbius? Madame Web? Kraven the Hunter?

It'd be like WB seeing the success of their solo Joker movie and greenlighting Killer Moth and Calendar Man movies. I'm surprised they didn't.

It's 80's ad-guy brain.

It's wild.

[DownInFlames]

I'm pleasantly surprised that this is actually getting released. I know some serious comics fans are involved but it's a parody dealing with gender issues.

[Sr. Mints]

I was hoping all the Aquaman 2 disappointment was overblown. It wasn't.

It's pretty undeniable Jason Momoa exudes charisma, was chiseled from marble, and has striking good looks. However, the fundamental flaw with him in just about any movie lies in his acting abilities, which becomes glaringly apparent as soon as he opens his mouth to deliver his first line.

It's one of the main reasons why he works well in Game of Thrones, where he spoke three sentences over the course of the entire first season.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Sr. Mints

I was hoping all the Aquaman 2 disappointment was overblown. It wasn't.

It's pretty undeniable Jason Momoa exudes charisma, was chiseled from marble, and has striking good looks. However, the fundamental flaw with him in just about any movie lies in his acting abilities, which becomes glaringly apparent as soon as he opens his mouth to deliver his first line.

It's one of the main reasons why he works well in Game of Thrones, where he spoke three sentences over the course of the entire first season.

I honestly never understood the Aquaman casting, other than they wanted someone who would look great with their shirt off. The comics Aquaman is a pretty serious and brooding character. If anything, Patrick Wilson, who plays Aquaman's rival, would have made a much better Aquaman.

I think Momoa work out pretty well as Lobo though. Lobo is a pretty cheesy character, whose fourth wall breaking is meant to purposely kill any kind of dramatic tone. Kind of like Ryan Reynolds with Deadpool, some actors are just meant to play certain characters. Not only is Momoa some white face paint away from looking exactly like Lobo, the attitude is also a total match. Momoa's Aquaman who was constantly giving one liners, hanging out in seedy bars, and slugging back bottles of booze was pretty much Lobo already.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by blankall

I honestly never understood the Aquaman casting, other than they wanted someone who would look great with their shirt off. The comics Aquaman is a pretty serious and brooding character. If anything, Patrick Wilson, who plays Aquaman's rival, would have made a much better Aquaman.

I think Momoa work out pretty well as Lobo though. Lobo is a pretty cheesy character, whose fourth wall breaking is meant to purposely kill any kind of dramatic tone. Kind of like Ryan Reynolds with Deadpool, some actors are just meant to play certain characters. Not only is Momoa some white face paint away from looking exactly like Lobo, the attitude is also a total match. Momoa's Aquaman who was constantly giving one liners, hanging out in seedy bars, and slugging back bottles of booze was pretty much Lobo already.

"The Main Man!"

I think it would be perfect for Momoa. He's got the look, he's got the cheese, its like Ryan Reynolds and Deadpool, its like the character was made for him.

[Harry Lime]

Momoa also knows that this is the role for him. He's said as much, and insinuated that Gunn would be open to talking about it.

[Galakanokis]

Holy shi...cow is Aquaman ever bad. Like really, really bad. Is it a parody? It feels like an Austin Powers movie. 90s Power Rangers cheese. Anyone involved in the making of this should never be allowed on set again. The movies I work on have a better, more in depth plot than this.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Galakanokis

Holy shi...cow is Aquaman ever bad. Like really, really bad. Is it a parody? It feels like an Austin Powers movie. 90s Power Rangers cheese. Anyone involved in the making of this should never be allowed on set again. The movies I work on have a better, more in depth plot than this.

Woah...hey now, lets not say things we cant take back. Although....you're probably not wrong.

Aquaman 2 was not 'the good.'

[Locke]

I watched Aquaman 2 specifically because of Sliver's recommendation about what shall be known in infamy as 'The Whale Scene.'

And did it suck as much as he claimed? Yes. Yes it did. It was literally a preposterous "I should turn this off" moment.

But I'm a completionist so I buckled up and watched the rest.

[Locke]

Oh. And if you're casually wondering if the CGI whales did anything cool?

They did not.

[bc-chris]

after reading the last few posts it leads me to ask the obvious question....

which is more 'no good'... aquaman 2 or edmonton?

[Nadal Fan]

My biggest issue with Aquaman 2 (and there are several) was that you could tell WB gave up and didn't care about the quality of this film. There was a pretty good story in there, if James Wan could have been left alone he would have crushed it just like the first one. But with all the meddling, he could only deliver this incoherent film. I think there were 2 different Batman attached this film at different stages and WB forces Wan to cut both out, because they wanted to end this universe and give the keys to Gunn. I doubt WB factored in how announcing a new DC film universe before the old one wrapped up would affect the box office of the 4 films released in 2023. Flash and Blue Beetle are legit good IMO, and deserved better. The entire DCEU deserved a better ending than Aquaman 2

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Nadal Fan

My biggest issue with Aquaman 2 (and there are several) was that you could tell WB gave up and didn't care about the quality of this film. There was a pretty good story in there, if James Wan could have been left alone he would have crushed it just like the first one. But with all the meddling, he could only deliver this incoherent film. I think there were 2 different Batman attached this film at different stages and WB forces Wan to cut both out, because they wanted to end this universe and give the keys to Gunn. I doubt WB factored in how announcing a new DC film universe before the old one wrapped up would affect the box office of the 4 films released in 2023. Flash and Blue Beetle are legit good IMO, and deserved better. The entire DCEU deserved a better ending than Aquaman 2

Aquaman 1 sucked out loud.

Aquaman 2 sucked under water.

The Flash may well have been the worst DCEU film ever made, but The Rock saved it by making Black Adam.

And Blue Beetle was enjoyable the way an 'Ant-Man' film is enjoyable. Fun but irrelevant.

[blankall]

Watched Aquaman 2 last night....yeah, it was not good. The effects were unfinished. The dialogue and plot were corny, but not in a fun way like the first movie. Since a lot of the visuals were bad, you never felt like you were getting a tour of a cool alien world, like the first movie. Instead, it was more like a budget TV show.

It wasn't a painful watch though. There was no point where I was waiting for the movie to finish, like, for example, the Eternals or Shang-Chi. For a two hour movie, that's not bad. I guess, that says something. I wasn't quite fun enough to be a so bad it's good movie either. It just kind of seemed like there were a lot of points, where the people making the movie just did not give an F.

The last scene with Mamoa literally has him ending with a speech to the world, on what is supposed to be a serious topic, where he ends it with: "I'm Aquaman! Ya hoooo!!".

And no Mamoa shirtless scenes. I'm assuming that was because he's gotten a little bigger these days.