2024 Off-season trade rumours and speculation thread

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

I think they will be able to make a hockey trade for Laine but I would prefer Laine and Elvis plus the 4th for Vladar and 41. But in any event I am sure the Blue Jackets would rather trade 4th for an actual asset like Chychrun or something and figure out how to deal with their cap problems some other way.

Even though Laine has had a rough time in Columbus I still think he has some value with his goal scoring ability. Take the islanders for example, they desperately need a scorer next to Horvat and Barzal could feed him all day long. Gudbranson and Elvis have negative value, but Gudbranson is done in 2 seasons and Elvis in 3. Elvis and Wolf would be a decent tandem and the perfect timeline for Wolf to play more than Elvis. If it gives us a chance at potentially selecting Demidov/Lindstrom/Catton and then selecting a D at 9, I think you do it.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

I think they will be able to make a hockey trade for Laine but I would prefer Laine and Elvis plus the 4th for Vladar and 41. But in any event I am sure the Blue Jackets would rather trade 4th for an actual asset like Chychrun or something and figure out how to deal with their cap problems some other way.

Columbus is not trading #4OA for cap relief.

[dammage79]

CLB signs one or both Monny and Lindy. Because that's the way the cookie crumbles......

And then reforms into a cookie but with a Blue Jacket!

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Columbus is not trading #4OA for cap relief.

I agree, that is why I think Chychrun for 4 makes way more sense. My point was only I would not take Gudbranson and Elvis rather I would try to provide them more relief by taking on Laine who may be possible to rehabilitate (in response to the post about them trading it for cap relief)

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Even though Laine has had a rough time in Columbus I still think he has some value with his goal scoring ability. Take the islanders for example, they desperately need a scorer next to Horvat and Barzal could feed him all day long. Gudbranson and Elvis have negative value, but Gudbranson is done in 2 seasons and Elvis in 3. Elvis and Wolf would be a decent tandem and the perfect timeline for Wolf to play more than Elvis. If it gives us a chance at potentially selecting Demidov/Lindstrom/Catton and then selecting a D at 9, I think you do it.

The Islanders have 5.8 million in cap space and 5 players to sign. Lou ####ed them good, they cannot afford Laine.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Columbus is not trading #4OA for cap relief.

That’s fine, they can continue to stay in mediocrity and continuously draft top 5 and get nowhere. Plus, Waddell probably wants this team to start progressing, and what better way to do that with gaining extra cap from players you probably don’t want to waste a buyout on.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

That’s fine, they can continue to stay in mediocrity and continuously draft top 5 and get nowhere. Plus, Waddell probably wants this team to start progressing, and what better way to do that with gaining extra cap from players you probably don’t want to waste a buyout on.

It pretty much goes against the Waddell model of accumulating draft picks and building outside of UFA. I suspect he wants to move down from 4 and pick up other young assets or picks. But if he is going to trade it for a now asset it is much more likely to be a cost controlled asset like Chychrun. He has 24 million in cap space to sign 8 players, it is not like he actually needs space to go make a UFA splash. He will have even more after he moves Laine.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

I agree, that is why I think Chychrun for 4 makes way more sense. My point was only I would not take Gudbranson and Elvis rather I would try to provide them more relief by taking on Laine who may be possible to rehabilitate (in response to the post about them trading it for cap relief)

Chychrun is not worth the 4th OA either. He’s a UFA in 1 year Columbus would want a much younger player who is cost controlled.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

That’s fine, they can continue to stay in mediocrity and continuously draft top 5 and get nowhere.

This is apparently a new definition of the word ‘mediocrity’.

The CPers who crap on the Flames for being mediocre would be thrilled if they got a string of top-5 draft picks.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Chychrun is not worth the 4th OA either. He’s a UFA in 1 year Columbus would want a much younger player who is cost controlled.

I think they might look at a trade like that with maybe Ottawa adding a 2nd or something if it is a sign and trade. Not sure anyone will give anything of substance to them for the pick anyway in terms of a young player who is cost controlled because the only time a player is cost controlled is during a ELC.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

I think they will be able to make a hockey trade for Laine but I would prefer Laine and Elvis plus the 4th for Vladar and 41. But in any event I am sure the Blue Jackets would rather trade 4th for an actual asset like Chychrun or something and figure out how to deal with their cap problems some other way.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Columbus is not trading #4OA for cap relief.

even if it happens now to make sense?

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

That’s fine, they can continue to stay in mediocrity and continuously draft top 5 and get nowhere. Plus, Waddell probably wants this team to start progressing, and what better way to do that with gaining extra cap from players you probably don’t want to waste a buyout on.

lol so let trade all our top picks ? How is that going to improve them?

Nobody is going to trade a top 5 pick for salary relieve

The Devils didn’t even trade a top 10 pick for a retained #1 goalie

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

I think they will be able to make a hockey trade for Laine but I would prefer Laine and Elvis plus the 4th for Vladar and 41. But in any event I am sure the Blue Jackets would rather trade 4th for an actual asset like Chychrun or something and figure out how to deal with their cap problems some other way.

What is that 41? Patrice Bergeron?

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

What is that 41? Patrice Bergeron?

Probably more of a Hunter Smith but the 4 is probably Cale Makar.

[Hockey_Ninja]

You aren't getting into the top 5 picks without giving up one of Coronato, Zary or Wolf. So basically, it's not happening

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

You aren't getting into the top 5 picks without giving up one of Coronato, Zary or Wolf. So basically, it's not happening

With the exception of Wolf, I would be willing to at least look at that option. There's a few game-changing defencemen in that range.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Sandman

With the exception of Wolf, I would be willing to at least look at that option. There's a few game-changing defencemen in that range.

Apparently the Devils wanted Coronato included for 10OA, which would make sense from a Devils perspective.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Probably more of a Hunter Smith but the 4 is probably Cale Makar.

So Makar and cap dump for Vladar and Hunter Smith?

Conroy needs to get on this ASAP

[Ped]

In the Athletic, Eric D suggest the Flames are eager to see what a healthy Vladar can do with Wolf next year. So maybe now that Markstrom is gone, this is what they want to go with.