Edmonton is No Good X: Up and Down Like a Toilet Seat

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by GhostCookie

That's right there with belly-laughs and guffaws.

Of course there are teams that CAN trade for Campbell. The problem that coiler fans and their water-carrying media don't comprehend is that the other team also has to agree to the trade. Like sure, Arizona might be willing to take it, but it's going to cost a lot to do so, since they understand the value of cap and the oilers are seeking to buy 4 years of relief. Every team had a chance at Campbell last summer, so why would they jump to get the crappy contract Holland signed? Also, what is saying Campbell isn't smart enough to put 10 teams that might help on his no trade list. The guy didn't asking for trade protection for fun, he obviously doesn't want to be moving constantly.

Even if they can get a team that isn't on the no soup list that is willing to take on his contract, its still costing them a kings ransom. And that only gets them out from under the contract, they still need to acquire a goalie from another team, which means they need to spend those same assets they just spent. These people all forget that tanking teams take on dead weight for a season, maybe 2, and even then that's a steep price.. Yet they believe that teams are lined up to solve Holland's cap mismanagement problems and throw their own future prospects at him, for pieces that oilers faithful themselves can't stop saying are worthless.

The Coyotes also only like taking cap hits when the real dollars spent are low. Campbell's contract wasn't really front loaded enough to make it worth it. If his cap hit was $5 million but his actual salary was half of that, they maybe they'd be interested. The whole point for them is to reach the cap floor while spending as little real money as possible.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

This gave me a good laugh.



https://thehockeywriters.com/oilers-...jack-campbell/

Apparently, poor Stuart Skinner was just completely tuckered out by Round 2 of the playoffs, having played 50 games in the regular season.

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[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Don't expect oiler fans to grasp that.

They're just seeing what they want to see without deeper thinking/analysis to understand the difference between Campbell's contract and other bad contracts they've taken on in the past.

They also might be the worst fanbase in the league at putting themselves in the shoes of the GM on the other end of the phone call with Holland and what their motivations might be be.

Arizona doesn't take just any contract just because that's what they do. There's usually something in it for them.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Come to think of it, Oilers fans and media serve as a great exemplification of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

[Boreal]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Don't expect oiler fans to grasp that.

They're just seeing what they want to see without deeper thinking/analysis to understand the difference between Campbell's contract and other bad contracts they've taken on in the past.

They also might be the worst fanbase in the league at putting themselves in the shoes of the GM on the other end of the phone call with Holland and what their motivations might be be.

Arizona doesn't take just any contract just because that's what they do. There's usually something in it for them.

Cases in point, that you couldn’t make up if you wanted to.

Bring Back Puljujarvi
https://thehockeywriters.com/oilers-...se-puljujarvi/

Puljujarvi’s thus-far failed career in the NHL must have taught him valuable lessons about humility and the importance of making the most of opportunities. His desire for a trade out of Edmonton and the belief that he deserved more than what the Oilers offered proved to be misguided. Returning with a newfound sense of humility and a willingness to earn his spot could be the catalyst for a successful second chance.

He knows the team well and the skill that is on it. He may never again get a chance to play with Connor McDavid or Leon Draisaitl, but a chance is all he can ask for. Players can do a lot with a chance.

Potentially Buyout (or trade ) Yamamoto
https://oilonwhyte.com/2023/06/01/bu...monton-oilers/

Right now they do not have much cap space to get everyone under contract and add another skilled player. This is why I think that buying out Yamamoto would be a good option for this team. The skilled forward would be an upgrade on his top 6 spot hopefully.

Of course hopefully, potentially bring Jonathan Toews in as a UFA.

https://oilonwhyte.com/2023/06/12/th...nton-oilers/2/

Here are 3 players I would like to see in an Oilers jersey.

Jonathan Toews

The Edmonton Oilers have been searching for a player to bring leadership and championship experience to their team. Jonathan Toews could be the perfect fit for this role. Although there is a high chance he might be retiring, it would be nice to see him in a depth role on the Edmonton Oilers.

Toews is a skilled center with over 1,000 career NHL games under his belt. He has won three Stanley Cups with the Chicago Blackhawks and has been a key contributor to their success over the years. His leadership and winning mentality are highly sought after in the NHL, and I think the Edmonton Oilers would be lucky to have him.

[keratosis]

The hot dry weather must be evaporating the water out of the cool aid up there. Concentrated cool aid can be potent.

[FlamesAddiction]

Here is another good one. Yamamoto, Descharnais, and 2024 1st rounder for Konecny.

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/edmont...-trade-konecny

So basically, a buyout candidate with negative value, a replacement level tweener defenseman that could be picked up anywhere on July 1st for free, and what will probably be a bottom ten 1st rounder in next year's draft, for the Flyers leading scorer who is only 26, and has 2 more years at below market value. I like how they call Descharnais a "young defender" when he is a year older than the player the Flyers would be giving up.

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Here is another good one. Yamamoto, Descharnais, and 2024 1st rounder for Konecny.

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/edmont...-trade-konecny

So basically, a buyout candidate with negative value, a replacement level tweener defenseman that could be picked up anywhere on July 1st for free, and what will probably be a bottom ten 1st rounder in next year's draft, for the Flyers leading scorer who is only 26, and has 2 more years at below market value. I like how they call Descharnais a "young defender" when he is a year older than the player the Flyers would be giving up.

Pretty much Hanowski, Poirer and a 1st

[Reggie Dunlop]

Derek Ryan Sign & Trade!

[Boreal]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Derek Ryan Sign & Trade!

Oh you don’t trade an excellent bottom 6 forward, one of the best 4th liners in the league!!

Who else could possibly wear out the opponents top pairing Dman. The Oilers aren’t going to find someone like Derek that other team try to “game plan” for but obviously can’t.

Or the focus of each game he plays on is someone else and he plays some of the most sheltered minutes in the league.

[Redrum]

Originally Posted by Boreal

one of the best 4th liners in the league!!

Another banner to go next to their new "Got thoroughly dismantled twice in a row by the cup champs with both arms tied behind their back" and "Didn't quite get swept this time" banners on opening night.

[TheIronMaiden]

Edmonton is no good

[direwolf]

Love how it’s always about “the chance to play with McLotteryball and Pissy”, like that’s the only thing that matters to players in regards to where they sign, and that every free agent in the world is lining up to go play in Dumpsterville just for the chance to ride the coattails of two perennial losers.

They’re just so ridiculously delusional. Oiler fans and media are no good.

[Southside]

LOL. Noah Philip would sooner retire.

https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/artic...dbarker+Sports


"Philp is not playing hockey next year. He’s made a decision to call it a career. It was a very, very difficult year for him. He told us he wants to be around Calgary and close to his family and friends. For personal reasons, he’s not playing hockey."

[Macho0978]

Oilers have 18 guys signed and $5 mil cap space

If they buy out Yamamoto and send Broberg down.

They have 16 guys signed and $8.5 mil cap space.

If they sign the following:

Bouchard - 1 year $4.5 mil
Klostin - 1 year $1.5 mil
McLeod - 1 year $1 mil

That's 19 guys signed $1.5 mil space. They would also have only 10 forwards.

Even if they somehow convinced Bouchard to take that deal and really Klostin probably could get more too, they have no cap space.

Kane or Campbell would need to go back to Philly for Konecny. If it is Campbell, they do not have the assets to make this deal. If it is Kane, they still likely burn all their assets and Konecny is no better than a healthy Kane was.

They can't be doing much until the ink Bouchard or trade Bouchard IMO

[midniteowl]

If they decide to trade Bouchard, other GMs know their cap problem, don't think any of them will offer anything for him, may be a 5th? If they decide to sign him, I hope him and his agent ask for minimum of $5M for a bridge deal and if they want 8 years, I hope his ask is in the Nurse territory.

[Tkachukwagon]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

If they decide to trade Bouchard, other GMs know their cap problem, don't think any of them will offer anything for him, may be a 5th? If they decide to sign him, I hope him and his agent ask for minimum of $5M for a bridge deal and if they want 8 years, I hope his ask is in the Nurse territory.

Bouchard is a prime target for an offer sheet

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon

Bouchard is a prime target for an offer sheet

I think Edmonton matches 2nd round compensation, but if a team offered a 5 x 6m Bouchard is easily worth more than a 1st and 3rd rounder. Would be a good move and put lots of pressure in Edmonton to match it.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

Bouchard - 1 year $4.5 mil
Klostin - 1 year $1.5 mil
McLeod - 1 year $1 mil

There are rumours that Kostin may go to the KHL, so maybe they don't need to worry about him.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I think Edmonton matches 2nd round compensation, but if a team offered a 5 x 6m Bouchard is easily worth more than a 1st and 3rd rounder. Would be a good move and put lots of pressure in Edmonton to match it.

Wouldn't it be funny if they decide to not match and take the 1st and 3rd then turn around and use those picks to trade for Konecny. And then, go and sign OEL.