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Old 05-25-2016, 12:51 PM   #5881
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Lol he and his lackeys can't even figure out how to coordinate their attacks on Hillary. Trusting this ####er with the nukes? What could possibly go wrong?

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Old 05-25-2016, 01:01 PM   #5882
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Inspector General report released today with a scathing criticism of Clinton's deliberate handling of sensitive and classified emails.

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The State Department’s independent watchdog has issued a highly critical analysis of Hillary Clinton’s email practices while running the department, concluding that she failed to seek legal approval for her use of a private email server and that department staff would not have given its blessing because of the “security risks in doing so.”

The inspector general, in a long awaited review obtained Wednesday by The Washington Post in advance of its publication, found that Clinton’s use of private email for public business was “not an appropriate method” of preserving documents and that her practices failed to comply with department policies meant to ensure that federal record laws are followed.

The report says Clinton, who is the Democratic presidential front-runner, should have printed and saved her emails during her four years in office or surrendered her work-related correspondence immediately upon stepping down in February 2013. Instead, Clinton provided those records in December 2014, nearly two years after leaving office.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...use/?tid=a_inl

The report found that a top Clinton aide was warned in 2010 that the system may not properly preserve records but dismissed those worries, indicating that the system passed legal muster. But the inspector general said it could not show evidence of a review by legal counsel.

The report states that its findings are based on interviews with current Secretary of State John Kerry and his predecessors – Madeleine Albright, Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice, but that Clinton and her deputies declined the IG’s requests for interviews.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...c91_story.html

One hacker, who claims to have breached and stolen a huge amount of emails related to the server, has just plead guilty and have been granted a plea deal from the FBI in return for cooperation in future court cases. The FBI had previously asked the IG to hold off on releasing their report till after the FBI was done it's own investigation. Given the offered plea deals for the hacker and the former Clinton IT staffer Pagliano along with the IG's release of the report, one would think the FBI is done now and they have something to go on.

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As outlined in the plea agreement which Fox News has reviewed, Lazar has agreed to extensive cooperation with the U.S. government. According to the court filing, Lazar has agreed to be "reasonably available for debriefing and pre-trial conferences as the U.S. may require."
The document states: “The defendant agrees to testify truthfully and completely at any grand juries, trials or other proceedings.”
Additionally, Lazar has agreed to provide all documents, writings, and recordings within his custody to the U.S. government that may be relevant to investigations or inquiries.
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On Friday, State Department spokeswoman Elizabeth Trudeau announced that the FBI recommended last month that the department delay its review to let the bureau continue its work.
“While the ongoing law enforcement investigation is taking place, our internal review is on hold, pending the completion of that,” Trudeau told reporters.

“We do not want our internal review to complicate or impede the progress of their ongoing law enforcement investigation.”
http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...ferring-to-fbi
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...with-feds.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...571_story.html

All this is particularly damning given her refusal to cooperate when all other prior secretary of states did, her outright on record attempts to hide her involvement, her lying about destruction of over 30k diplomatic communications, her public statements about cooperating with the investigation and her claims that she is the "the most transparent public official in modern times as far as I know."
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...ern_times.html

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Old 05-25-2016, 01:09 PM   #5883
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Trump supporters and protesters clash in Anaheim:

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Outside the anti-Trump crowd has begun marching in a circle around the group that has been hurling insults at protesters. A large group of Orange County Sheriff's deputies in riot gear can be seen behind the police lines, but Lyster said they were simply on standby. The deployment was organized weeks in advance and was not in response to the incident at Trump's rally in New Mexico last night, Lyster said.

Two men were positioned at the main entrance of the convention center, holding a sign calling for an end to abortion and Islam, while a few people holding signs denouncing Trump looked on.

One man with a loudspeaker was pacing in front of a police line, screaming a series of pro-Christian, anti-gay messages, and a small crowd of people chanting against Trump began trying to shout him down.
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I'm really starting to think Trump (or the RNC or whoever) is paying the anti-Trump protesters to be as over the top as possible as a means of creating sympathy for Trump. These protests have only created more Trump voters and not the opposite.
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I'm really starting to think Trump (or the RNC or whoever) is paying the anti-Trump protesters to be as over the top as possible as a means of creating sympathy for Trump. These protests have only created more Trump voters and not the opposite.
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Democrats are now considering throwing the chair of the DNC under the bus to heal the rift in the party caused by the current campaign.

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Democrats on Capitol Hill are discussing whether Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz should step down as Democratic National Committee (DNC) chairwoman before the party’s national convention in July.

Democrats backing likely presidential nominee Hillary Clinton worry Wasserman Schultz has become too divisive a figure to unify the party in 2016, which they say is crucial to defeating presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump in November.

Wasserman Schultz has had an increasingly acrimonious relationship with the party’s other presidential candidate, Bernie Sanders, and his supporters, who argue she has tilted the scales in Clinton’s favor.
“There have been a lot of meetings over the past 48 hours about what color plate do we deliver Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s head on,” said one pro-Clinton Democratic senator.

The lawmaker said senators huddled on the chamber floor last week to talk about Wasserman Schultz’s future and estimated that about a dozen have weighed in during private conversations.

“I don’t see how she can continue to the election. How can she open the convention? Sanders supporters would go nuts,” said the lawmaker, who requested anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the discussions.

There is no indication Wasserman Schultz, who is also a Florida congresswoman, has any plans to leave her post. And Senate sources stress that a final decision won’t be made until Clinton and Sanders negotiate some type of deal aimed at healing the party. President Obama, who selected Wasserman #Schultz as chairwoman in 2011, is expected to play a major role in any such talks.
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Oh god damn it.



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ABC suggests the shift may be defections from Bernie Sanders’ campaign, many of whom are furious with Clinton and the establishment. ABC noted “[a]nother result indicating Sanders-related defections is the number of liberals saying they’d support Trump vs. Clinton — now 24 percent, up 8 points from March.”
“[Clinton is] losing 20 percent of Bernie Sanders’ supporters to Trump,” ABC found.
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http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign...serman-schultz

I figured out I disliked Wasserman-Schultz after her neutering of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Of all the industries that need to be controlled properly, I'd say that the payday lending industry could use some restraint.

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Wasserman Schultz is co-sponsoring a new bill that would gut the CFPB’s forthcoming payday loan regulations. She’s also attempting to gin up Democratic support for the legislation on Capitol Hill, according to a memo obtained by The Huffington Post.

Obama put Elizabeth Warren in control of the CFPB to help stop predatory payday lenders and the like, but the GOP has done their best to kill their effectiveness, and then you have Wasserman-Schultz joining right in and gutting the legislation so it doesn't really change anything.

I won't miss her if she's replaced.

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Trump will be the next U.S. president.
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All Of This Has Happened Before And Will Happen Again (just kidding)

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That came out last year, not 2000.

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That came out last year, not 2000.
Yes, thus the "just kidding". Snopes covered it I think.
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Oh god damn it.

Unfortunately this is kind of what happens when the Dems push someone with historically high distrust and unlikeability levels

Clinton is also probably the worst campaigner of an impending presidential nom in a long time. I think even worse than Kerry who was a total dud.
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I guess so? It's not like I would deny my prediction in the future. I'm not really sure what you're gunning here for, that I may end up being wrong?

Thanks, I'm aware of that. I just think he will win. I think it's as simple as going full attack mode on Hillary and then using the next few months to slowly and methodically move more centrist in statements and platform. And he will win.
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I guess so? It's not like I would deny my prediction in the future. I'm not really sure what you're gunning here for, that I may end up being wrong?

Thanks, I'm aware of that. I just think he will win. I think it's as simple as going full attack mode on Hillary and then using the next few months to slowly and methodically move more centrist in statements and platform. And he will win.
I agree with you. The big thing is, yes, Trump is historically unpopular but then again so is Clinton. Trump doesn't need to suddenly become as popular as Reagan, he only needs to beat the opponent in front of him. I don't think it'll be hard to do.
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I agree with you. The big thing is, yes, Trump is historically unpopular but then again so is Clinton. Trump doesn't need to suddenly become as popular as Reagan, he only needs to beat the opponent in front of him. I don't think it'll be hard to do.
The electoral math for Trump is very difficult. Once the Democrat congeals behind Clinton she wins baring an exogenous event.
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Washington, Oregon, California, New Mexico, Minnesota, Illinois, Michigan, NY, Maryland, Rhode Island, Connecticut, NJ, Vermont, Deleware, Massachusetts, Maine, DC and Hawaii are all in the bank for the Dems regardless. That's 217/270

That leaves these as toss ups. Bold are the likeliest to be democrat. If she only got those ones she would be at 275, and over the line. Florida, even if it is close is likely to Clinton also due to Hispanics

Florida - 29
Pennsylvania - 20
Ohio - 18
North Carolina - 15
Virginia - 13
Wisconsin - 10

Colorado - 9
Iowa - 6
Nevada - 6
New Hampshire - 4

and possibly both Arizona - 11 and Georgia - 16 turning due to demographics.
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The general election is pretty easy to read right now. If a good majority of Bernie supporters (80%+) ultimately vote Hillary, she has such huge demographic edges elsewhere that Trump has no chance without Bernie supporters. If a good amount of Bernie supporters (30-40%) want to go full ###### and vote Trump, then it becomes chaotic and Trump winning becomes a 50/50 or better proposition. So we'll see how it goes after the primaries are done and Bernie has finally, officially lost. If he endorses her that should probably be it for Trump's chances as that should prevent Bernie supporters from going too far off the deep end.
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I also think a lot of people who fully intend to vote for Trump get into the ballot box and just can't pull the trigger
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