2024 Off-season trade rumours and speculation thread

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Icon

As much as he may have interest in playing for the Flames, if he signs an offer sheet, and the Oilers are forced to match for more than they wanted to pay, it probably just means some bad blood there between him and Oilers management going forward.

I suppose it's not impossible and they could view it as just business.

I dunno, add it to the list of reasons we don't see many offer sheets.

Bad blood against our rival? That alone is worth an offer sheet. What are they going to do next year, offer sheet for someone since Draisaitl walks? Bring it on.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

It's not worth it.

Seems like he is hinting at a roster player, but if he means just gathering more assets that would be our 1st this year, another 1st next year and probably mid round picks.

At this point in our rebuild, we need to make our picks.

Depends on the situation with the other team they trade with.

Maybe the ask to move from 9 to 4 isn't a ton and maybe the team that is trading the player they want values 9 close to 4.

4Ov for 9Ov+

9OV for young RFA +

They might get the same caliber player but at a couple picks trading down from 4 to 9.

Columbus is short a 2nd in the next 2 drafts. Adding a couple picks might be smart as they aren't up picks despite being at the bottom.

[Just a guy]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

It's not worth it.

Seems like he is hinting at a roster player, but if he means just gathering more assets that would be our 1st this year, another 1st next year and probably mid round picks.

At this point in our rebuild, we need to make our picks.

Is there a player you think would be worth it outside Celebrini?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

Depends on the situation with the other team they trade with.

Maybe the ask to move from 9 to 4 isn't a ton and maybe the team that is trading the player they want values 9 close to 4.

4Ov for 9Ov+

9OV for young RFA +

They might get the same caliber player but at a couple picks trading down from 4 to 9.

Columbus is short a 2nd in the next 2 drafts. Adding a couple picks might be smart as they aren't up picks despite being at the bottom.

We have no clue who will be on the board at 4 right now either. The draft can go anyway. After #1 the draft does not seem to have a clear cut board, or star available that you would entertain trading a bunch of picks to move up for.

I just cant see a team valuing #9 and Rasmus Andersson for #4. Or dropping back 5 spots to add some 2nd rounders next year.

THey will also be moving out Laine, they can get a 2nd back in that deal.

If its the same caliber of player at 4 and 9, why waste assets to trade up.

At this point in time, we need to make picks and a lot of them to replenish our pool.

Unless a clear cut #1C was on the board, it makes no sense for us. Also those picks are rarely moved anyways.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Just a guy

Is there a player you think would be worth it outside Celebrini?

I think so many players seem to lumped together, that we will get as good of a player at #9 as we would at #4.

[traptor]

Rasmus + van 1st would get you in the ballpark.

The cost to move from 9th to 4th would probably be our other 1st atleast.

Is van 1st+iginla/catton/whatever worth demidov/lindstrom?

[butterfly]

Everyone thinks all these picks from 2-14 will be the same. They won’t be, in retrospect, but right now that’s how they’re valued.

So just rely on the amateur scouts who have been very good for the Flames. I wouldn’t pay much to move from 9 to 4. Maybe a 5th rounder.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

We have no clue who will be on the board at 4 right now either. The draft can go anyway. After #1 the draft does not seem to have a clear cut board, or star available that you would entertain trading a bunch of picks to move up for.

I just cant see a team valuing #9 and Rasmus Andersson for #4. Or dropping back 5 spots to add some 2nd rounders next year.

THey will also be moving out Laine, they can get a 2nd back in that deal.

If its the same caliber of player at 4 and 9, why waste assets to trade up.

At this point in time, we need to make picks and a lot of them to replenish our pool.

Unless a clear cut #1C was on the board, it makes no sense for us. Also those picks are rarely moved anyways.

That's based on what we know. Teams talk and I bet Conroy has a better idea of who goes where then we do.

It's possible that Columbus is after a guy like Necas and Carolina would love a top 10 pick for him but Columbus won't trade 4 for Necas and Carolina won't add a bunch with Necas to get 4 when they would be happy with 9.

Hard to say when we have limited knowledge, but I could see the Flames trading up and I could see Columbus looking at Necas as a great fit with their young team but valuing 4 higher than Necas but might be ok with Necas and a 2nd for 4OV.

Could be other pieces too but at some point, Columbus needs to start winning now not just building and building.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by traptor

Rasmus + van 1st would get you in the ballpark.

The cost to move from 9th to 4th would probably be our other 1st atleast.

Is van 1st+iginla/catton/whatever worth demidov/lindstrom?

Pick 28 and and 28 year old slow defenceman gets you #4?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

That's based on what we know. Teams talk and I bet Conroy has a better idea of who goes where then we do.

It's possible that Columbus is after a guy like Necas and Carolina would love a top 10 pick for him but Columbus won't trade 4 for Necas and Carolina won't add a bunch with Necas to get 4 when they would be happy with 9.

Hard to say when we have limited knowledge, but I could see the Flames trading up and I could see Columbus looking at Necas as a great fit with their young team but valuing 4 higher than Necas but might be ok with Necas and a 2nd for 4OV.

Could be other pieces too but at some point, Columbus needs to start winning now not just building and building.

Whatever offers Carolina has received they do not like.

#4 for Necas would be a pretty terrible trade, but I wouldn't care its not our pick.

[butterfly]

Necas for 4th overall? Haha. Mangiapane would get us a top 10 pick in that galaxy.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Necas for 4th overall? Haha. Mangiapane would get us a top 10 pick in that galaxy.

The hype train for Necas is out of control.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Weitz

I know if I just played in the Stanley cup final I would sign a low dollar offer sheet with a bottom 5 team for the next year!

Once playing in the Stanley Cup finals is over, it's time to think about the next contract. If another team is offering me more money, and more opportunity, I would be a fool not to consider it.

Also, offer sheets are never 'low dollar'. The whole point is to entice them, not insult them.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Weitz

I know if I just played in the Stanley cup final I would sign a low dollar offer sheet with a bottom 5 team for the next year!

Would you sign an offer sheet for a million more than what you were being offered by your Stanley Cup Final team? Why do UFAs leave Stanley Cup finalists?

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Necas for 4th overall? Haha. Mangiapane would get us a top 10 pick in that galaxy.

Pretty sure I just said Columbus wouldn’t do 4 for Necas but might trade down for an asset then do 9 for Necas.

Also just because CP says 4 is no better than 9 doesn’t mean individual teams and their scouts might still have someone they want ahead of others and are willing to pay something to move up. Some might not care to move down too

I would not be shocked if the Flames trade up

[ForeverFlameFan]

For 4th overall… maybe Columbus would take Vladar and 28 in exchange for Gudbranson and Elvis attached? They probably think it’s a good pick to deal since Celebrini and Demidov are likely gone, and they’re good on defense. It’s not like it’s a Fantilli-like player this draft. Wonder if Gudbranson would waive here, I think he liked it here? He and Bahl would be a fun bottom pairing to watch.

With that deal, Columbus would have a ton of space to throw at players like Lindholm, Stephenson, Pesce, etc.

[Winsor_Pilates]

I don't think 4th overall is that valuable this year vs 5-10; given the prospects rankings are all over the place.
It's not a year with a clear top 4-5 draft class.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

For 4th overall… maybe Columbus would take Vladar and 28 in exchange for Gudbranson and Elvis attached? They probably think it’s a good pick to deal since Bedard and Demidov are likely gone, and they’re good on defense. It’s not like it’s a Fantilli-like player this draft. Wonder if Gudbranson would waive here, I think he liked it here? He and Bahl would be a fun bottom pairing to watch.

With that deal, Columbus would have a ton of space to throw at players like Lindholm, Stephenson, Pesce, etc.

More than likely I'd say, Bedard at least

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

For 4th overall… maybe Columbus would take Vladar and 28 in exchange for Gudbranson and Elvis attached? They probably think it’s a good pick to deal since Bedard and Demidov are likely gone, and they’re good on defense. It’s not like it’s a Fantilli-like player this draft. Wonder if Gudbranson would waive here, I think he liked it here? He and Bahl would be a fun bottom pairing to watch.

With that deal, Columbus would have a ton of space to throw at players like Lindholm, Stephenson, Pesce, etc.

I think they will be able to make a hockey trade for Laine but I would prefer Laine and Elvis plus the 4th for Vladar and 41. But in any event I am sure the Blue Jackets would rather trade 4th for an actual asset like Chychrun or something and figure out how to deal with their cap problems some other way.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

More than likely I'd say, Bedard at least

I am already penciling Demidov a Hawk haha. I sometimes type quicker than I think!