Good going Mr Coffee, you just gave the apologists a reason to deviate and deflect. Noticed how they all pounced at the opportunity to correct you and completely avoid talking about the Trudeau foundation resignations?
Don't give the apologists an out so easily.
You make the mistake that just because people don’t put a Trudeau sucks and should have resigned after the SNC Lavalin affair disclaimer that they are apologists.
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You'd rather BS just be accepted? How is this deflection if he brought it up, as if it was some proof that Justin got rich somehow, but not sure how, and not sure how rich, so therefor there are wrong doings?
Of course feel totally free to be part of the forum fact checking police task force. He can certainly be challenged which you and several were quick to come to correct.
Since you are in an active discourse now and his BS has been successfully and safely corrected, care to comment on the subject of the day?
Where is the investigation of the University of Montreal for the other $750,000 from the same donor? Do we have a bunch of lawyers who now owe their education to the CCP?
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Fuzz - "He didn't speak to the media before the election, either."
If a chinese businessman comes by, with members of the Trudeau Foundation with several prominent Trudeau family members in hand for the ceremony, and vouched for by our country's prime minister would you question it? Care to explain why you feel the focus should be on the University of Montreal instead of the Trudeaus involved and vouching for this businessman?
The fun thing about the internet is that most past news release are easily still retrievable
MONTREAL, June 1, 2016 - The University of Montreal Faculty of Law is holding a ceremony today in recognition of the donation by Zhang Bin and Niu Gensheng to create the "China-Canada Fund for Bin Zhang-Niu Gensheng Scholarships" and the "Bin Zhang-Niu Gensheng Fund for the Trudeau Foundation", commemorating the recognition of the People's Republic of China in 1970. The generous donators will be greeted at the University of Montreal at 5 p.m. by the Rector, Guy Breton, in the presence of Peng Jingtao, Chinese Consul General in Montreal, and Alexandre Trudeau, Director and Member of the Pierre Elliott Trudeau Foundation.
The consistent link between the news today, the University, and the Chinese businessmen has been a handful of very notable names, ones that have also refused to recluse themselves.
Public Service workers vote overwhelmingly to strike.
Perhaps this will push private sector workers, whose salaries also aren't keeping up with inflation and haven't been for years, to get organized and push for the compensation and treatment they deserve, instead of turning on the public service and demanding that our working conditions be reduced to match theirs.
And maybe monkeys will fly out of my butt.
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The Trudeau Foundation tried "repeatedly" to return a controversial check to a Chinese donor, but came up against a closed door: the issuing company's head office is in a decrepit – and deserted – estate located in Dorval. The contract formalizing this donation, which La Presse obtained, was signed on behalf of the foundation in 2016 by Alexandre Trudeau, brother of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
As of March 1, the Trudeau Foundation took steps to return the donation to the International Millennium Golden Eagle Society, the company issuing the funds. A few days earlier, the Globe and Mail had revealed, based on information intercepted by the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), that it was the Chinese authorities who had asked two wealthy businessmen to finance the Foundation Trudeau.
It had been agreed that the donation would be $200,000, but the foundation had received $140,000.
The head office of the company issuing the donation is located in a decrepit estate located in Dorval, chemin du Bord-de-l’Eau. The courier company, which made numerous delivery attempts, came up against a closed door. Again on Wednesday, during a visit to La Presse, the mansion flanked by a tennis court seemed totally deserted.
A few days later, after unsuccessful efforts, the courier company sent the check back to the foundation. “The donation was returned to us this week,” said the resigning general manager, Pascale Fournier, in an email sent to the members of the board of directors. This email is part of a bundle of internal foundation documents that La Presse has obtained.
A trust account? Impossible
Faced with the impossibility of returning the funds, the general manager indicates that she has asked a law firm to open a trust account to deposit the money. But because she did not know the exact source of the funds, the firm was forced to refuse the Trudeau Foundation's request.
“Before proceeding, [the law firm] carried out an internal analysis to ensure that the office could accept the money in accordance with the ethical rules applicable in Quebec. However, the foundation was informed [that the office] could not accept funds in trust for ethical reasons,” writes Ms. Fournier.
On March 29, shows an internal Foundation document obtained by La Presse, the board of directors was then alerted to the fact that the name on the check for the famous "Chinese donation" was not the name of the true donor. A request was made to the general management to “print a check to give to the alleged real donor”.
A request which was refused, since the name of this “real donor” did not appear anywhere in the books of the Foundation. Such reimbursement would therefore have been “unlawful”, states the document.
The CEO calls a meeting of the Board of Directors on March 31. At this meeting, the C.A. voted for the launch of an independent investigation into the whole “Chinese donation” affair. The law firm Miller Thomson is in charge of the investigation, with the services of the accounting firm Deloitte.
A few days later, a member of the executive committee, the lawyer Peter Sahlas, considered another possibility: to have the check delivered to the company by a bailiff. "Perhaps the bailiff could give us information on the place of delivery (presence of vehicle, lights on, or other signs of life)", writes Mr. Sahlas in an email addressed to the members of the executive committee of the Foundation. He wonders why the delivery was not made. “Was it because no one was present, or did the people present not accept the delivery? »
This suggestion by Mr. Sahlas is not well received by the members of the C.A. "I am completely opposed to any transfer of money until the independent investigation is completed", writes in particular the former lieutenant-governor of Nova Scotia Myra Freeman, who was on the Foundation's board, and who resigned on Tuesday along with seven other directors.
It is essential that board members keep [their] distance [on] all these issues until the investigation is complete. Myra Freeman, who was on the Board of the Trudeau Foundation, in an internal email
Several other board members, including Ginger Gibson, director of the Firelight group, Dyane Adam, former commissioner of official languages, and Madeleine Redfern, aboriginal businesswoman – all of whom are part of the group of quits on Tuesday – also share their irritation in their responses.
"I propose that the $140,000 not be touched until the independent investigation is completed," wrote Ms. Adam. “The executive committee and the C.A. must withdraw completely during the investigation, in order to ensure its independence,” adds general manager Pascale Fournier.
On Wednesday, the Foundation's new CEO, Edward Johnson, announced that the donation would be subject to independent review. "This independent review will be carried out by an accounting firm on the instructions of a law firm, neither of which has been commissioned by the Foundation in the past," he said in a statement. transmitted to the media.
Discussions from 2014
The discussions around the "Chinese donation" to the Trudeau Foundation date back to 2014, show the documents obtained by La Presse. At that time, the two businessmen Zhang Bin and Niu Gensheng expressed the desire to donate $800,000 to the Faculty of Law of the University of Montreal as well as $200,000 to the Trudeau Foundation.
A year later, in September 2015, the Foundation's Executive Director, Élise Comtois, wrote to the members of the executive and told them that the two Chinese businessmen would be visiting Montreal again in a few days "to sign the donation contract.
"Events are rushing, and we don't want to miss this exceptional opportunity," writes Ms. Comtois. We are running out of time to call a board meeting to get them to approve the deal. We therefore need your agreement in principle. Would it be possible to give me your agreement tomorrow? The director general therefore gave members of the executive less than a day to approve the donation from China.
But the donation will not finally materialize until June 2016. The donation was to be made in three installments, two of $70,000 and the last of $60,000. The last check was never paid. The contract formalizing the donation is signed by Zhang Bin, Niu Gensheng, the rector of the University of Montreal, Guy Breton, and Alexandre Trudeau, for the Foundation. At the time, Mr. Trudeau was a member of the board of directors of the Foundation, and he was authorized to enter into this type of agreement, indicates the then president of the Foundation, Morris Rosenberg.
don't remember precisely. You ask me for the details of an authorization that goes back seven years, so I am not in a position to tell you, ”said Mr. Rosenberg, when we asked him about the precise role of Alexandre Trudeau on the C.A. at the time. Alexandre Trudeau declined our interview offer.
Who are the Chinese donors?
hang Bin's Canadian company that made the donation to the Trudeau Foundation is called International Millennium Golden Eagle. The Chinese billionaire is the chairman of the board of directors and gives an address in Beijing.
Since 2020, a certain Du Zhichao has officially been CEO of the company, a "holding company" that does "real estate investing", according to public documents. La Presse tried to get in touch with him by ringing the bell at his condo, in a 10-story building on rue Chomedey, in downtown Montreal. Without success.
n 2013, he registered a company, Minghu International, with a Quebec businessman. On the phone with La Presse, this partner explains that he founded this company with Mr. Du to trade with China, taking advantage of the fact that he had "a lot of contacts in the Chinese government". “We looked at whether we could export different products: beef, leather, drinking water… We looked at different things. »
This Quebec partner, who knew Mr. Du at McGill University, said he did not know which contacts he had to activate for their business. “I know he took care of the businessmen who visited Montreal from time to time,” he says. Their company wanted to enter into contracts with “companies that were linked to the government”. “But it fell through,” he says. Minghu International has been deregistered from the company register since 2016.
Another Chinese billionaire in the portrait
Until 2020, Hu Guojun was the official leader of the International Millennium Golden Eagle. Also of Chinese descent, he runs a real estate business. But according to public documents, he is also vice-president of the Quebec branch of the Lao Niu Foundation, a charity that is owned by another Chinese billionaire, Niu Gensheng.
This businessman joined Zhang Bin in donating $1 million to the University of Montreal and the Trudeau Foundation.
In fact, Niu Gensheng provided the bulk of the sum: $800,000. Of this amount, $750,000 was to go to the creation of scholarships for exchanges between Chinese and Quebec law students, and $50,000 was intended for the erection of a statue representing former Prime Minister Pierre Elliott Trudeau.
The university of Montreal plans to reimburse
At the University of Montreal, the director of communications Sophie Langlois specifies that the establishment finally received only $ 500,000 and that the statue in honor of the father of Justin Trudeau was never erected.
As to whether the University plans to reimburse the donation of half a million, the spokeswoman does not close the door. “We are evaluating all our options, in light of the information circulating at the moment. »
In the same donation contract, Zhang Bin pledged to donate $200,000 to the Trudeau Foundation, which ultimately only received $140,000. On its website, Niu Gensheng's organization credits itself with the entire donation.
"Our foundation donated S$1 million [C$944,654 at the time] to create a fund for scholarships at the University of Montreal law school, the former prime minister's alma mater. Pierre Elliott Trudeau, with the aim of promoting Sino-Canadian exchanges in culture, education, as well as to create a bronze statue of Pierre Elliott Trudeau,” writes the Foundation in English on its website.
The site publishes photos showing Alexandre Trudeau, Justin Trudeau's brother and member of the Foundation's board of directors at the time, with Niu Gensheng, Zhang Bin and the former rector of the University, Guy Breton.
La Presse tried to reach Hu Guojun, the representative of the Lao Niu Foundation in Quebec, without success.
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Huh. This could get interesting. I do wonder if this is Justin calling bluffs on sovereignty acts. What better target than resource revenue to rile up the enemy?
Good news, for the provinces (bad news for the FNs), from our PM today at a press conference in Saskatchewan where he stated that they will not be touching the natural resource agreements.
Until you have stories about the government actually favouring China - I just don't think any of this is going to have the impact the Con voters on this site want.
Good news, for the provinces (bad news for the FNs), from our PM today at a press conference in Saskatchewan where he stated that they will not be touching the natural resource agreements.
This just seems like another massive misinterpretation of what was said, as happened a few months ago. I can't remember the situation, but Smith totally freaked out becuase she didn't understand how words work. Looks like the "western premiers" have done it again.
EDIT: Oh, right, it was the "Just Transition" document where she thought the total number of jobs in the industry was actually the number of jobs being eliminated. Maybe she should hire a specialist of some sort to interpret words for her, so she stops sticking her foot in her mouth. I fI were the Federal Liberals, I'd totally be trolling her with vague wording just to watch her do it over and over again.
This just seems like another massive misinterpretation of what was said, as happened a few months ago. I can't remember the situation, but Smith totally freaked out becuase she didn't understand how words work. Looks like the "western premiers" have done it again.
Misinterpretation but also poorly chosen words by the Minister when delivering the message/answer. This happens when people attempt to be overly vague or obtuse in order to placate others.
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I wonder if the resignations of the Trudeau foundation board offers a way for David Johnson to step aside from his role in the election interference investigations.
So he never took a page out of Genesis and said on the 7th day the Statement or Claim would be filed? So you were wrong?
More details about that Trudeau Foundation "Questionable Donation" by Chinese billionaire Zhang Bin which prompted the resignation of the entire board. He's actually the president president of the China Cultural Industry Association which adheres to "total leadership" of the CCP.
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A businessman whose reported donations to the Pierre Elliott Trudeau Foundation led to the resignation of its CEO is the president of a Chinese cultural organization that says it operates under the authority of the communist government.
The website of the China Cultural Industry Association says it adheres to the “total leadership” of the Chinese Communist Party and was formed with the approval of China’s State Council, which is synonymous with the central government.
The association says on its Chinese-language site that its president is Zhang Bin, a Chinese billionaire that the Globe and Mail reported had donated $200,000 to the foundation in 2016, along with another Chinese businessman.
But the Globe reported that a receipt named a company called Millennium Golden Eagle International (Canada) as the donor.
The China Cultural Industry Association says Millennium Golden Eagle International is one of its executive board members and was created with the approval of China’s culture ministry.
It is always an exciting day when Katie Telford shows up for questioning. I don't expect much to actually happen in terms of answers or findings but it always fun.
Already lots of anger/disappointment about documents being provided to the committee this morning from the privy council office that they have been sitting on for weeks.
