2024 Off-season trade rumours and speculation thread

[GioforPM]

On the rarity of offer sheets - do we only hear of the ones that are signed? Not the ones which are offered but not accepted? Can't a player just take the offer sheet and go to his current team and say I'd be prpared to sign this but I won't if you make the same offer?

[Electricprez]

What do we think of the idea of taking on Mikheyev?
Millstein brought in to help facilitate a trade…

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

On the rarity of offer sheets - do we only hear of the ones that are signed? Not the ones which are offered but not accepted? Can't a player just take the offer sheet and go to his current team and say I'd be prpared to sign this but I won't if you make the same offer?

Definitely could be or the agent goes and says I know a team will offer sheet at x if you don’t offer something decent.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Electricprez

What do we think of the idea of taking on Mikheyev?
Millstein brought in to help facilitate a trade…

If the Canucks paid I’d rather do that than sign DeBrusk

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Electricprez

What do we think of the idea of taking on Mikheyev?
Millstein brought in to help facilitate a trade…

Needs to be a decent asset coming back. Not interested in helping Vancouver without incentive.

[Electricprez]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Needs to be a decent asset coming back. Not interested in helping Vancouver without incentive.

I feel like he could thrive here surrounded by the Russian/Belarussian contingent. Then draft Demidov to make it all complete.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by TOfan

1. Corronato shoots right and I’d bet he’s in the mix this year. Also, Flames should/need to be thinking long term. They should not be fixated on handedness at this point. They should be fixated on acquiring players that fit into their 5-8 year plan.

2.big ticket? What are we talking about? 5 years, 6? What are you thinking he’s worth?

3. From almost all accounts I heard, specifically Steinberg, Mangiapanne is going to be traded. He wants out. I also suspect, strongly, that at least one of Kuzmenko, Sharangovich, and perhaps Coleman are moved this season as well. There will be spots. Further, I don’t think the Flames want to trot out a roster of 20 year olds. I think they see the value in having vets on the roster and, even better, ones that want to be here.

To me, this is exactly the type of UFA they should pursue. In part due to his age and his desire to want to play here, or closer to home. He fits. Plus they get the benefit of adding assets in moving those, Msngiapanne specifically, who don’t.

1. Coronato hasn't made the top 9 just yet. Currently we have:
Mangiapane - Backlund - Coleman
Pospisil - Kadri - Kuzmenko
Huberdeau - Zary - Sharangovich
This lineup currently has exactly 1 right shot in the top 9. Huska and/or Conroy were mentioning handedness when discussing the PP, and why it got going. Which in turn helps the forwards gain more confidence.

2. What I meant by a big ticket was something over $4M. Which isn't a cap hit you want to place on the 4th line. Hence it would be more likely for Debrusk to have a spot in the top 9 and the PP over the likes of Pelletier, Coronato, Honzek, or even Pospisil in the near future.

3. I don't disagree regarding Mangiapane, but I was also hearing that the market for him is extremely cold due to his caphit. Which could mean he's here until the TD. A guy like Coleman has a NTC, and I don't know with any certainty that we will trade Sharangovich or Kuzmenko for whom we just traded for last year. Also if we trade Kuzmenko then we traded they only right shot forward, so that brings back point 1.

Even if you make these moves is Debrusk the winger that's the best fit for the Flames? Because if we sign him then we can't bring in Duclair(or you name it), without taking a top 9 spot away from either Pelletier or Coronato. Do you see him playing on the Backlund line or as Huberdeau's winger instead of Sharangovich?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Electricprez

What do we think of the idea of taking on Mikheyev?
Millstein brought in to help facilitate a trade…

That guy is one of those players who seems like they should be really good - skates well, has size, looks like they should be a scorer. But never delivers. See also Anisimov, Athanasiou, Yamamoto (well minus the size), Kostin, etc.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by WickerChicken

I agree, see no reason why we would trade Mang now. His value is likely low. He should be motivated to have a good season in his free agent year. If he wants to get traded, put the onus on him to increase his value.

How much more do you really think flames will get for mangiapane at the deadline? Middle 6 wingers don’t seem to bring much. Toffoli only got a 2nd and 3rd and is far more accomplished than mangiapane.

Also his value is low not because of an off year . He pretty much played to his average last year. He really has only had one great season with flames and a couple of good world championships. Not sure world championships mean much in trade value.

[sureLoss]

Knights tell Mantha they will not be re-signing him:

https://www.tsn.ca/pending-ufa-antho...back-1.2137255

Mantha told Catherine Savoie of RDS(opens in a new tab) that he was informed by the Vegas Golden Knights that he will not be re-signed by the team, who acquired him at the trade deadline.

The 29-year-old forward had three goals and 10 points in 18 games with the Golden Knights after being traded from the Washington Capitals, and went without a point in three playoff games. Vegas sent a second-round pick in this year's draft and a 2026 fourth-rounder to Washington for Mantha, who finished the year with a total of 23 goals and 44 points in 74 games between the two teams.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I think the Oilers would match both and then figure out the cap if they wanted to keep them. I wouldn’t bother with getting either personally but that’s just me. Lundell is interesting but I think Panthers would match pretty anything that maxed at a second round pick compensation.

But even if they do match them, it really puts them in a bind.

So please, Mr Conroy, do this.

[Matty81]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Knights tell Mantha they will not be re-signing him:

https://www.tsn.ca/pending-ufa-antho...back-1.2137255

Still hate that guy for probably the dirtiest thing I've ever seen in the NHL, him pushing Hamonic through the open gate during a fight that Athanasiou opened and then hitting him repeatedly in the face on the ground in the bench with Hamonic's arms pinned under him. Right up there among the most cowardly cheap things I've ever seen in hockey

Should have gotten half a season for that IMO and would have if it was against a bigger hockey market

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Matty81

Still hate that guy for probably the dirtiest thing I've ever seen in the NHL, him pushing Hamonic through the open gate during a fight that Athanasiou opened and then hitting him repeatedly in the face on the ground in the bench with Hamonic's arms pinned under him. Right up there among the most cowardly cheap things I've ever seen in hockey

Should have gotten half a season for that IMO and would have if it was against a bigger hockey market

Instead, they got a PP, did they not?

[konradical]

So if we are signing DeBrusk which seems very likely, I really hope we are trading Mang. We cant just block wing positions for Coronato/Pelltier for average 40 point wingers when we need to get younger and develop.

I dont have an issue with DeBrusk but there needs to be some plan for trades to free space up then

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Matty81

Still hate that guy for probably the dirtiest thing I've ever seen in the NHL, him pushing Hamonic through the open gate during a fight that Athanasiou opened and then hitting him repeatedly in the face on the ground in the bench with Hamonic's arms pinned under him. Right up there among the most cowardly cheap things I've ever seen in hockey

Should have gotten half a season for that IMO and would have if it was against a bigger hockey market

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Instead, they got a PP, did they not?

Was that the play Tkachuk got a misconduct for poking into a pileup with his stick?

[Toonage]

Off topic but the Flames have always been the NWB for the NHL. All rules get calibrated against the Flames. Prove that they still exist for the general public to see.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Was that the play Tkachuk got a misconduct for poking into a pileup with his stick?

yes

[Vinny01]

I saw Frank has the Flames listed as a team in on Necas on his top 25 trade targets.

If the Flames go after him it would be great to cash in on Sharangovich as a key piece of the return in my opinion. Flames need to add but I would look to cash in on Sharangovich before looking to lock him in on an extension

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I saw Frank has the Flames listed as a team in on Necas on his top 25 trade targets.

If the Flames go after him it would be great to cash in on Sharangovich as a key piece of the return in my opinion. Flames need to add but I would look to cash in on Sharangovich before looking to lock him in on an extension

LeBrun said that Carolina has received firm offers for him, and none of the deals have what they want.

Getting into a bidding war for a 45-50 point winger is not what Conroy should be focused on.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I think the Oilers would match both and then figure out the cap if they wanted to keep them. I wouldn’t bother with getting either personally but that’s just me. Lundell is interesting but I think Panthers would match pretty anything that maxed at a second round pick compensation.

The Oilers matching two contracts for 2.28 million would mean that they would have 5.473 million for 7 players (781K a player). League minimum is 750K so theoretically they could match on both those guys and run back some version of a lineup for the other 4 forwards playing each night. Otherwise they are trying to move one of Ceci, McLeod or Kulak. Ceci they would have to attach an asset to and the other two they could probably move for 3rd round pick or so.

Players they could not sign under really any circumstance if they matched on Broberg and Holloway would be

Foegele
Brown
Henrique
Janmark
Desharnais

You may be correct that they would match both but I highly doubt they would. I suspect most teams would take either Broberg or Holloway for a 3rd round pick.

If Florida matched they would have 15.43 million to sign 8 players (1.92 million a player). They would have the following players to sign or replace

Ekmann Larson
Montour
Kulikov
Reinhart
Tarasenko

I agree that Florida would almost certainly match and then probably try to get somethign for Knight but it would be highly unlikely that the Oilers would match both.