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Old 05-17-2016, 02:59 PM   #5781
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I wouldn't call Trump a fascist.
Didn't say that. Just pointed out the fact about European "nationalists".

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actual fascism is pretty difficult to define
By literal fascists I mean people who either literally call themselves national socialists (aka Nazis), use the symbols without saying it out loud (for example Golden Dawn) or constantly and openly admit their admiration of fascist ideas and claim.to want to put them to action again. (Concentration camps are quite a popular suggestion for what to do with immigrants.)

You'd be shocked how common it is these days in Europe.

Of course now that Europe has decided that the best solution to unwanted immigration is that Turks shoot them before they get here, the fascist rhetorics stand out surprisingly little.
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He sure loves his eastern euro girls.
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Old 05-17-2016, 03:14 PM   #5784
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He sure loves his eastern euro girls.
I mean, can you blame him?
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I just want to watch him in a debate with a sensible person (aka not a Republican).

It will be hilarious, shocking, and sad.
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Old 05-17-2016, 05:13 PM   #5786
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Just you watch, Trump will pick Bill Clinton as VP. Then the cycle will be complete.
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Old 05-17-2016, 06:15 PM   #5787
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Dems are worried about what could happen at their convention when Bernie and Hillary supporters get in the same room.

Sanders inciting violence?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...8c8_story.html

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Turd Sandwich vs. Giant ###### 2016

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This is quite a speech by Sanders. This could go on all night.
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Old 05-17-2016, 10:09 PM   #5790
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So tonight the Republicans are united and the Democrats are divided. Unreal.

It's the Democratic convention that's going to be a spitshow.
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Old 05-17-2016, 10:37 PM   #5791
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That really turned on its head.
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Hillary better get all of Sanders supporters on board and out voting or she could be in deep doo-doo.
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It'll never happen in a million years but I feel like Sanders running as VP on Trump's ticket would just be hours and hours of entertainment this summer/winter. I couldn't even imagine all the craziness that would ensue.
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Hillary better get all of Sanders supporters on board and out voting or she could be in deep doo-doo.
Sanders supporters view her as so incredibly un-likeable, untrustworthy and corrupt that at least 40% will not support her in the general as of now if recent polls are accurate. She will never get them aboard and the damage has already been done.

Primarily it's a trust issue. Here's Clinton lying for 13 straight minutes. Say enough times that you are honest or haven't broken any laws and someone will believe you.


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That's a nonsense claim. Sanders has previously held huge rallies in especially log income and high crime areas that have gone incredibly smoothly with zero reported cases of violence. This is just people getting riled up because of the whole corrupted Democratic processes. I suspect though going into the DNC, there is a high chance though of protests going into the DNC.

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It'll never happen in a million years but I feel like Sanders running as VP on Trump's ticket would just be hours and hours of entertainment this summer/winter. I couldn't even imagine all the craziness that would ensue.
Ted Nugent will be Trump's VP.
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Hillary better get all of Sanders supporters on board and out voting or she could be in deep doo-doo.
Well we'll see what Bernie is ultimately really all about when the time comes. More than likely he'll endorse Hillary because he doesn't want Trump to win, even though his core supporters will feel totally betrayed by him doing so. Whether they turn around and buck, and either support Trump or write Bernie in, is anyone's guess, but if Bernie endorses her she'll get 80% of his supporters and that's more than enough to win.
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Sanders supporters view her as so incredibly un-likeable, untrustworthy and corrupt that at least 40% will not support her in the general as of now if recent polls are accurate. She will never get them aboard and the damage has already been done.

Primarily it's a trust issue. Here's Clinton lying for 13 straight minutes. Say enough times that you are honest or haven't broken any laws and someone will believe you.




That's a nonsense claim. Sanders has previously held huge rallies in especially log income and high crime areas that have gone incredibly smoothly with zero reported cases of violence. This is just people getting riled up because of the whole corrupted Democratic processes. I suspect though going into the DNC, there is a high chance though of protests going into the DNC.
Those polls mean pretty much nothing at this stage of the election cycle. Those same polls have been done ad nauseam for candidates during a primary only to see people opinion change. Most people that have made up their mind already will have 5 months to forget their choice and reasoning
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Sanders supporters view her as so incredibly un-likeable, untrustworthy and corrupt that at least 40% will not support her in the general as of now if recent polls are accurate. She will never get them aboard and the damage has already been done.

Primarily it's a trust issue. Here's Clinton lying for 13 straight minutes. Say enough times that you are honest or haven't broken any laws and someone will believe you.
Actually that's not at all her lying 13 minutes straight, not even close. It's just a bunch of short clips that don't even quite add up to 13 minutes and it isn't even her talking all the time. Also, an almost unwatchable video. Poorly done and annoyingly repetitive.

(Of course part of it is because Hillary is a rather annoying political speaker.)

That said, especially the gay marriage part is just a weird answer from her. I really can't imagine what the problem would be with just saying that her opinion on gay marriage has changed from 'no' to 'yes'. It's a solid moderate-yet-progressive view that probably resonates with a lot of voters that have gone through the same.
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That's a nonsense claim. Sanders has previously held huge rallies in especially log income and high crime areas that have gone incredibly smoothly with zero reported cases of violence. This is just people getting riled up because of the whole corrupted Democratic processes. I suspect though going into the DNC, there is a high chance though of protests going into the DNC.
The same could be said about Trump and his campaign yet the narrative there is he is inciting the violence. Even when it's Bernies supporters showing up and disrupting his rallies. A Trump supporter punches a protester; Trump inciting violence. Dude gets laid out and requires medical attention at Nevada caucus, Dems are just riled up.

Come on, it's a bunch of crap all the way around and individuals need to be held responsible for their own actions, but let's not pretend that if this was a GOP function and it had the same outcome, that the cries would not be directed towards Trump and his culpability.
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Ted Nugent will be Trump's VP.
Howard Stern as they always used to joke about it when Trump would come on his show. That said I believe he's a Hillary supporter.
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