03-17-2025, 07:44 PM
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#561
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Originally Posted by jg13
that would not be nearly enough to move up to a position to draft misa
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A top 10 pick this year, potentially a top 3 pick next year, Brzustewicz and what else?
I agree that it’s not enough on its own, but how much more do we reasonably have to add?
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03-17-2025, 07:46 PM
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#562
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
A top 10 pick this year, potentially a top 3 pick next year, Brzustewicz and what else?
I agree that it’s not enough on its own, but how much more do we reasonably have to add?
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Would you take that package to trade the pick?
Moving up hardly ever happens now.
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03-17-2025, 07:55 PM
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#563
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Would you take that package to trade the pick?
Moving up hardly ever happens now.
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Columbus already passed on a package like that from the Hawks. It’s way too much risk that the team pops and they trade a top 3 pick for a mid round pick.
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03-17-2025, 07:57 PM
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#564
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
A top 10 pick this year, potentially a top 3 pick next year, Brzustewicz and what else?
I agree that it’s not enough on its own, but how much more do we reasonably have to add?
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The proposal didn't include this years 1st rounder.
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03-19-2025, 12:23 PM
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#565
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#1 Goaltender
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Sample sizes are starting to reach thresholds where Mitch Brown's player tracking project is posting data for high-minute players.
Pretty, pretty good! Parekh is a 5v5 god.
And a couples others; not sure how many I can post without getting in trouble.
McKenna already making a mockery of the WHL and is still 15 months away from being drafted. Does he crack 150 next year, the first draft-eligible CHL player to do so since Crosby?
15-year-old DuPont is a top 20 defender in the league and is 27 months from his draft. His 2026-27 season is going to be just stupid.
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03-19-2025, 12:41 PM
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#566
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Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
Because both the GM and coach are on the same page and have stated as much.
If you are a creative offensive player, go do your thing in the offensive zone. Pretty simple. Unfortunately the Flames are near the bottom of the league when it comes to the quantity of creative offensive players. Close to zero. One day that will change, but today isn't that day. Currently they just have to try to scrape by with what they have, which isn't much.
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This is simply bs by Huska. The players are clearly told to feed everything back to the point in the offensive zone. We see it every game. You think players like Huberdeau, Frost, and others that are very creative offensively are throwing everything back to the point because that's how they have created offense in the past? Huska has also said the players have to be committed to the way he wants them to play which certainly is not be creative in the offensive zone. I can't believe anybody would watch the team every game and think that is remotely true.
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03-19-2025, 11:02 PM
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#567
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Flames fan in Seattle
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I do notice we throw everything back to the point but that will finally be great once we have Parekh to do something back there instead of Weegar shooting it into the shinpads or getting everything deflected. And I LIKE Weegar.
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03-19-2025, 11:38 PM
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#568
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One thing that did stand out when I watched him at the young stars was he had a deadly accurate shot from the point and he could thread it through traffic.
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03-20-2025, 07:35 AM
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#569
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
This is simply bs by Huska. The players are clearly told to feed everything back to the point in the offensive zone. We see it every game. You think players like Huberdeau, Frost, and others that are very creative offensively are throwing everything back to the point because that's how they have created offense in the past? Huska has also said the players have to be committed to the way he wants them to play which certainly is not be creative in the offensive zone. I can't believe anybody would watch the team every game and think that is remotely true.
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They don't though.
That's the simple play for a player that doesn't see many options and you need that outlet.
But do you honestly think Kadri only throws it to the point? Huberdeau? Frost?
Just not the case.
They lack transition, they lack boots, and they lack one on one creative players.
That limits the offence you can run.
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03-20-2025, 09:19 AM
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#570
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Bingo
They don't though.
That's the simple play for a player that doesn't see many options and you need that outlet.
But do you honestly think Kadri only throws it to the point? Huberdeau? Frost?
Just not the case.
They lack transition, they lack boots, and they lack one on one creative players.
That limits the offence you can run.
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Yeah agree. Coaching is important, but the Flames aren't a top power play team because they don't have the game breaking talent. Every team in the top 10 this year, including Chicago at #8, has that high end talent.
If coaching was the issue in Calgary, they wouldn't have improved from 25th overall last year (17.9%!), when they were under a more "creatively" minded coach in Savard, to 19th overall (21.5%) this year under MacLean (Toronto is sitting right around the same in both years).
It might have even been the conflict that ended Savards time in Calgary -- that perhaps Savard was pushing an incompatible power play style that was based on higher end finishing, which Huska understands that the Flames don't yet have.
It certainly will be interesting to see what happens when Parekh's in play. It's a lot to put on a young guy, so he'll probably need a couple years to really figure it out, but he obviously could really change things.
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03-20-2025, 09:27 AM
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#571
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Loves Teh Chat!
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
This is simply bs by Huska. The players are clearly told to feed everything back to the point in the offensive zone. We see it every game. You think players like Huberdeau, Frost, and others that are very creative offensively are throwing everything back to the point because that's how they have created offense in the past? Huska has also said the players have to be committed to the way he wants them to play which certainly is not be creative in the offensive zone. I can't believe anybody would watch the team every game and think that is remotely true.
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Right? I get the message is 'be creative, but also defensively responsible' but there has to be some coaching in the offensive zone too, right? Set plays, where to be, how we transition/support the puck, when to dump vs carry it in, etc.
Sure, you can argue we don't have the talent, but I sure hope our offensive strategy is more than 'let creative players be creative, oh darn, we don't have creative players'
Last edited by Torture; 03-20-2025 at 09:29 AM.
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03-20-2025, 09:59 AM
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#572
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by Bingo
They don't though.
That's the simple play for a player that doesn't see many options and you need that outlet.
But do you honestly think Kadri only throws it to the point? Huberdeau? Frost?
Just not the case.
They lack transition, they lack boots, and they lack one on one creative players.
That limits the offence you can run.
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On point. If Huska was running the same set in the offensive zone with players like McKinnon, Draisaitl, Nylander, Point…. then I believe we could question his tactics, but as it is his system limits turnovers in the high/mid offensive zone to avoid odd numbers going the other way. It’s an effective strategy to employ when you don’t have the talent to consistently beat opponents one on one in traffic. It’s fair to question any coach’s schemes, but I would say Huska’s strategy is dictated more by roster composition than his personal preferences.
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03-20-2025, 10:10 AM
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#573
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Torture
Right? I get the message is 'be creative, but also defensively responsible' but there has to be some coaching in the offensive zone too, right? Set plays, where to be, how we transition/support the puck, when to dump vs carry it in, etc.
Sure, you can argue we don't have the talent, but I sure hope our offensive strategy is more than 'let creative players be creative, oh darn, we don't have creative players'
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I think it's more "we'd like to let creative players be creative, but we don't have enough creative players, so set up a shot volume plan and screens to do the best we can with what we have"
Don't think many coaches would coach this team differently.
You can only hammer on a square peg so long before you see it won't go into the round hole.
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03-20-2025, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Torture
Right? I get the message is 'be creative, but also defensively responsible' but there has to be some coaching in the offensive zone too, right? Set plays, where to be, how we transition/support the puck, when to dump vs carry it in, etc.
Sure, you can argue we don't have the talent, but I sure hope our offensive strategy is more than 'let creative players be creative, oh darn, we don't have creative players'
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It’s a lot easier to argue they don’t have the horses to employ a more creative offensive system than it is to argue the only strategy is to “be creative.”
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Originally Posted by really?
On point. If Huska was running the same set in the offensive zone with players like McKinnon, Draisaitl, Nylander, Point…. then I believe we could question his tactics, but as it is his system limits turnovers in the high/mid offensive zone to avoid odd numbers going the other way. It’s an effective strategy to employ when you don’t have the talent to consistently beat opponents one on one in traffic. It’s fair to question any coach’s schemes, but I would say Huska’s strategy is dictated more by roster composition than his personal preferences.
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Huska is a great coach for the team we have, maybe not the team we wish we had or the team we will have, but he’s great at developing players and instilling team defence.
People focus on the offensive talent a lot, but people also seem to forget that our top 6 D regularly has no bonafide #1 D, and 3-4 bottom pairing/replacement level defencemen. At no point during this season have we had 6 legitimate top 6 defencemen on the ice. The entire team strategy, both offence and defence, has to consider the talent gas in all areas of the ice and needs to be structured in a way that limits guys from being exposed as much as possible. That’s just reality.
The fact that the team is where it is in the standings should dispel any concerns over what happens when this team has top talent.
And if Huska isn’t the right coach at that point, make the switch. But the positives he’s added to the young players on this team are going to page huge dividends when this is a team that is ready to compete.
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03-20-2025, 10:27 AM
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#575
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#1 Goaltender
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Back to Parekh...
He has had:
One-3 game pointless streak this season.
Eight-1 game pointless streaks.
That's it.
He has at least one point in the other 48 games he played this season.
Of those 48 games, he was held to one point only 18 times, leaving 30 multi-point games this season.
13 of those were "only" two-pointers.
Leaving 17 times he had three or more points in a game.
He might be OK...
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03-20-2025, 10:50 AM
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#576
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Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing
Back to Parekh...
He has had:
One-3 game pointless streak this season.
Eight-1 game pointless streaks.
That's it.
He has at least one point in the other 48 games he played this season.
Of those 48 games, he was held to one point only 18 times, leaving 30 multi-point games this season.
13 of those were "only" two-pointers.
Leaving 17 times he had three or more points in a game.
He might be OK...
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The Flames desperately need consistent offence. Biggest gripe with the Flames is that the players never consistently score all at once. One group of forwards will be on and the others cold.
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03-20-2025, 11:08 AM
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#577
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Scoring Winger
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Is he currently injured??
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03-20-2025, 11:44 AM
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#578
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Flames_F.T.W
Is he currently injured??
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He had a minor injury I think, but then the team had a few days off before they finish the season with a back-to-back-to-back this weekend.
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03-20-2025, 12:13 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Uranus
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
It’s a lot easier to argue they don’t have the horses to employ a more creative offensive system than it is to argue the only strategy is to “be creative.”
Huska is a great coach for the team we have, maybe not the team we wish we had or the team we will have, but he’s great at developing players and instilling team defence.
People focus on the offensive talent a lot, but people also seem to forget that our top 6 D regularly has no bonafide #1 D, and 3-4 bottom pairing/replacement level defencemen. At no point during this season have we had 6 legitimate top 6 defencemen on the ice. The entire team strategy, both offence and defence, has to consider the talent gas in all areas of the ice and needs to be structured in a way that limits guys from being exposed as much as possible. That’s just reality.
The fact that the team is where it is in the standings should dispel any concerns over what happens when this team has top talent.
And if Huska isn’t the right coach at that point, make the switch. But the positives he’s added to the young players on this team are going to page huge dividends when this is a team that is ready to compete.
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Isn't there a decent likelihood that he's going to adjust tactics as the team adds talent in the coming year or two in order to maximize talent? I would say his walking orders are to have this team playing the right way and competing through this stretch. The only way to do this is to employ the strategies he has been and the fact players aren't quitting or tuning him out say a lot about him being more than just a placeholder in my book.
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03-20-2025, 12:38 PM
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#580
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Originally Posted by Bingo
They don't though.
That's the simple play for a player that doesn't see many options and you need that outlet.
But do you honestly think Kadri only throws it to the point? Huberdeau? Frost?
Just not the case.
They lack transition, they lack boots, and they lack one on one creative players.
That limits the offence you can run.
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Also, EVERY team throws it back to the point when there isn't another play. Nothing wrong with it.
The problem isn't throwing it back to the point, the problem is that our point men aren't doing much with it, when they get it. Does VAN throw it back to the point? Yes. Then Hughes makes a play. Do the Avs throw it back to the point? Yes...
Blaming the coach for a lack of plays is overly simplistic, and lazy.
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