[LOL] Coyotes release their STH seating chart for their 5000 person arena

[White Out 403]

It would be nice for the respectability of the league for us to move on. Hopefully the locals will vote this down and we can move on and close this embarrassing chapter for the league.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by getbak

Mountain Standard Time, so an hour behind Calgary, same as Pacific Daylight Time.

The polls close at 8:00pm Calgary time. I don't know how long it will take for the results to start coming in.

I'm at the Coyotes' election night HQ in Tempe. Expecting votes to begin to trickle in at the top of the hour.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Hopefully they vote this down and move this sucker of an organization to a stable city.

That 5000 seat arena is one of the biggest embarrassments in pro sports

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Hopefully they vote this down and move this sucker of an organization to a stable city.

That 5000 seat arena is one of the biggest embarrassments in pro sports

Much like the Corral where the Flames played for 3 years and were "embarrassing".........amirite?

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by JBR

You mean the part that says "The Coyotes deal is the only offer Tempe has received in decades to buy the city-owned property, which is largely a landfill and will remain a multi-million-dollar liability so long as it stays on Tempe's books."?

Yes.

Well, that is one way of fudging what it says but the bottom line is actually this.

But there might be more money to be made on a different deal, if one comes along. An economic development expert suspects Tempe is forgoing $64 million too much in future tax revenue to help support the project, for example. And if the land isn't as distressed as the Coyotes expect, it might be worth tens of millions more than the city is selling it for.

So as I said, they would be much better off waiting.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Much like the Corral where the Flames played for 3 years and were "embarrassing".........amirite?

What size stadiums did other teams play in?

I wasn't alive so I don't know but I bet you do since you know everything

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

What size stadiums did other teams play in?

I wasn't alive so I don't know but I bet you do since you know everything

Stunning info.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

What size stadiums did other teams play in?

I wasn't alive so I don't know but I bet you do since you know everything

17-20K.

But i know nothing.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

The new site doesn't line up with a runway though, if you line up with the center runway the new stadium would be out your right window and about 4k from touchdown.

Can't see them winning that argument.

That may be true, I really don’t know. But the city of Phoenix is alleging that Tempe is in breech of a legal agreement that has been in place for over 20 years. Without having read the agreement, who knows what was agreed to.

Regardless of the vote tonight, Tempe and the Coyotes will need to deal with this.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Much like the Corral where the Flames played for 3 years and were "embarrassing".........amirite?

League was a little different 40 years ago

[TheScorpion]

Vote has failed.

[Ashasx]

Wow.

Coyotes gone.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by transplant99

17-20K.

But i know nothing.

More like 13k-19k.

There were also multiple teams that spent 2-3 seasons playing in sub-13k arenas between the late 70s and early 90s. It’s quite a bit rarer now and the AZ one is particularly small, so I have no idea why you’re acting like it’s some usual thing because the Flames did it 40 years ago.

[Reggie Dunlop]

[getbak]

It's not even close. 56-44 in favour of No on two of the props and 57-43 on the third.

[Toonage]

Meh. They've been failing for 20 years already. They can move around the state another 20.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

That may be true, I really don’t know. But the city of Phoenix is alleging that Tempe is in breech of a legal agreement that has been in place for over 20 years. Without having read the agreement, who knows what was agreed to.

Regardless of the vote tonight, Tempe and the Coyotes will need to deal with this.

I haven't either but I would assume it would have to be no buildings over a certain height on a flight path, this arena is not on a flight path.

[DoubleK]

Wonder what Plan D is?

[getbak]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

More like 13k-19k.

There were also multiple teams that spent 2-3 seasons playing in sub-13k arenas between the late 70s and early 90s. It’s quite a bit rarer now and the AZ one is particularly small, so I have no idea why you’re acting like it’s some usual thing because the Flames did it 40 years ago.

Also, although the Flames had the lowest attendance in the league all three seasons they played in the Corral, if they had stayed one more year, they wouldn't have: https://www.hockeydb.com/nhl-attenda...L1927&sid=1984

The Flames averaged just over 7,200 in each of the 3 seasons in the Corral. In 1983-84, the Pens average attendance was 6,839 (then, they got Mario).


In the 3 seasons in the Corral, the Flames per game average attendance was greater than 50% of the average attendance of half the teams in the league. This season, Arizona's average attendance was less than 1/3 that of the 31st overall team in terms of attendance.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Wonder what Plan D is?

With Dallas in the Conference Final and looking to be a potential powerhouse in the Central for the next few years, it would be a good time to get a Texas rival for them.