[GT] Battle of Alberta: Youngsters trying to earn opening day roster spots in Edmonton

[burnitdown]

Originally Posted by Bingo

You make it so easy man.

A drive by on spreadsheets is almost sad. You don't need spreadsheets to look up a .916 goaltender on any website dude, but if you struggle finding those I can certainly help you out.

.916 is NHL average. That's what they acquired, that's what he is.

The rest is tiresome hyperbole

Aren't those numbers confirming his point that he's nothing but a middling/average goalie his whole career?

[DeluxeMoustache]

Corsi win!

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by shogged

You’re right, you are generally more polite and articulate in your posts. And you clearly put in a lot of effort to show your opinion. But his ‘I watch hockey’ is your ‘look at these stats’

I think at the end of the day you and new era are both passionate fans but I don’t see why you need to call him out for every post he makes.

Thanks for the first bit, but I don't agree on stats vs claiming superiority over viewing hockey on others.

I don't make the stats up in any way. Presenting stats is an objective entry into a passionate conversation. Suggesting you have an edge in frequency or ability to view hockey is trying to win arguments with fluff.

[crapshoot]

I think we all need to take a step back and recognize the fact that the Edmonton Oilers have once again won the NHL preseason by a landslide. And we all know what is likely to come next.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by burnitdown

Aren't those numbers confirming his point that he's nothing but a middling/average goalie his whole career?

Go back and look for words like average.

You won't see them.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Third period all situations stats

20-10 CF
5-5 SC
4-4 HD

Game totals

75-33 CF
26-17 SC
15-9 HD
43-21 shots

lol

Flames were CLEARLY the better team. Three fortunate bounces for the Oilers dictated the results, but not the flow.

[Redrum]

Originally Posted by crapshoot

I think we all need to take a step back and recognize the fact that the Edmonton Oilers have once again won the NHL preseason by a landslide. And we all know what is likely to come next.

Yeah yeah. Another banner ceremony at the home opener.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

lol

Flames were CLEARLY the better team. Three fortunate bounces for the Oilers dictated the results, but not the flow.

And looked those all up! Didn't need a spreadsheet

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

lol

Flames were CLEARLY the better team. Three fortunate bounces for the Oilers dictated the results, but not the flow.

Feels like we heard this one a lot last year.

[Classic_Sniper]

Weird game tonight. Flames probably deserved a better fate. But I’d rather these bad games happen in the preseason then In the regular season. Mike Smith did not have a good game this entire preseason unfortunately.

Hopefully that changes on Wednesday, but there’s something about this guy and giving up a lot of goals when the workload is small. But when he faces a lot of shots, he looks unbeatable. Must be a concentration thing.

[SeanCharles]

No big deal.

There were some positives. The PP looked good for stretches, Lindholm is a strong two-way threat, the youngsters don't look out of place.

Now the real games begin.

Will be interesting to see who made the final cuts

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by burnitdown

Aren't those numbers confirming his point that he's nothing but a middling/average goalie his whole career?

Are you under the impression that new era was calling Smith average?

If he were, he wouldn't have been called out by multiple posts, but his post was nothing but hyperbole.

[Mike F]

Originally Posted by Bingo

You make it so easy man.

A drive by on spreadsheets is almost sad. You don't need spreadsheets to look up a .916 goaltender on any website dude, but if you struggle finding those I can certainly help you out.

.916 is NHL average. That's what they acquired, that's what he is.

The rest is tiresome hyperbole

.916 was 16th among goalies with at least 35 starts. You're saying Smith is average, he saying he's middling. . . . Is there really a big gulf between your positions that makes his eyeroll worthy?

[MisterJoji]

That team is going to live and die by McDavid and Talbot. Doubled up their SOG’s but still lost. Also here’s some standings from last year’s preseason standings (division place):

Edmonton (1st)
Chicago (2nd)
Islanders (1st)
Vancouver (2nd)
Florida (2nd)
Carolina (3rd)

Winnipeg (7th)
Washington (8th)
Pittsburgh (7th)
Nashville (5th)
San Jose (5th)
Tampa (6th)

Let those losers have their preseason banner. Turned out so well last year.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Robbob

He was on at the end there.

No he wasn't. His last shift was at the end of the second.

The players out at the end of the game were: Lindholm, Gaudreau, Bennett, Dube, Andersson, and Giordano.

[Toonage]

Announcers claimed Tkachuk was on the ice for the last face off but my stream took a hit so they were all blurry.

[Strange Brew]

Wyshynski of ESPN had Flames goaltending ranked 24th coming into season. Differences between stats vs. eye test, analytical posters vs. emotional posters aside, some others have Flames goaltending below average.

Seems undeniable that Smith was above average for early part of season but also seems like common sense to be concerned if that can be expected over this whole season.

Average goaltending for 50 games or so may not be good enough for this team. It is a legitimate concern.

[shogged]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Thanks for the first bit, but I don't agree on stats vs claiming superiority over viewing hockey on others.

I don't make the stats up in any way. Presenting stats is an objective entry into a passionate conversation. Suggesting you have an edge in frequency or ability to view hockey is trying to win arguments with fluff.

Oh I know you don’t agree on the eye test lol that was the whole point of my post. It’s just that new era clearly feels his eyes have merit and watching you guys argue about it at every opportunity just seems like a waste of both of your talents.

Anyways I’ll leave it at that, you aren’t the first two to have a feud on this board and I’m sure you won’t be the last

[Manhattanboy]

I think most would agree that goaltending is the biggest concern going into the regular season.

[djsFlames]

Weird game. Same as in SJ we saw what the Flames are capable of for roughly half the game with an impressively quick attack and great passing. Then a couple softies undo it all and the team's resolve sags away. Smith served it up on a platter more than the Oilers earned a win which is still concerning. But the Oilies love the preseason so much that it was destiny.

Flames looked like they had the much better group of skaters despite missing markedly better players than the opposition, Talbot looked more competent in net over 60 minutes.

Special teams and goaltending are the recurring question marks for the team.