09-02-2016, 03:12 PM
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#561
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle
Yes, but his team mates around him weren't all going at 100%, or playing with the intensity they would have been had the Flames been in the hunt. How would he have done when his defense partner was moving, making decisions just that fraction quicker and harder? How would he have done if the forwards were moving quicker out the zone and he needed to be just that little bit more accurate.
Not to mention, how many games did he get vs. other teams that were out of it too and they weren't playing as hard. When you are a team that's in it, even the teams that are done get up to play you and play spoiller.
Also, we can talk all we want about how much those games likely meant to Nak, and that's likely true, but it gets even harder to perform when you not only have your internal pressure, but the external pressure of not wanting to let your team mates down in a meaningful game.
It might get overstated for sure, but the meaningless games at the end of last year were simply not the same and not as good a test as a meaningful NHL game would be. Too many little factors dialed down a notch or two for it to be the same thing.
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Even if his team-mates weren't going 100% as you suggest, the other teams were (other than the Oilers and Avalanches of the league).
As a defenseman especially, if you're not playing at 100% intensity, and the other team is, you're in for some serious trouble.
Again, as I said before, there is no doubt that there were a few games that can be thrown out as low intensity. But to suggest they all were, is ridiculous.
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09-02-2016, 03:33 PM
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#562
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Just heard on the fan that Monny will not play in the world cup. Vincent Trocheck will take his place.
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09-02-2016, 03:38 PM
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#563
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2015
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Do we see Gaudreau with McDavid now?
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09-02-2016, 03:48 PM
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#564
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Franchise Player
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My prediction for players from Team Canada that will be dropping out:
Pietrangelo
Benn
Crosby
Stamkos
Toews
Thornton
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09-02-2016, 04:09 PM
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#565
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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times have changed. Can't have a serious tournament in september anymore.
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09-02-2016, 04:41 PM
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#566
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
I'm pretty sure you're aware that not signed =/= not good enough
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what are we even talking about?
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09-02-2016, 05:25 PM
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#567
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlySports
times have changed. Can't have a serious tournament in september anymore.
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It seems this won't be recognized as the world best-on-best tournament until the NHL pulls out of the Olympics. Which is too bad. I never saw any difference in the quality of play between Canada/World Cup and the Olympics. Guys like Gretzky and Lemieux didn't either. But if today's players aren't buying in yet, then it is what it is. I expect the 2020 World Cup, with no Olympic participation between now and then, will be a much bigger deal.
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09-02-2016, 06:48 PM
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#568
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
It seems this won't be recognized as the world best-on-best tournament until the NHL pulls out of the Olympics. Which is too bad. I never saw any difference in the quality of play between Canada/World Cup and the Olympics. Guys like Gretzky and Lemieux didn't either. But if today's players aren't buying in yet, then it is what it is. I expect the 2020 World Cup, with no Olympic participation between now and then, will be a much bigger deal.
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Maybe or international hockey just dies.
World Championships forever.
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09-02-2016, 06:51 PM
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#569
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash Walken
Is there any drug testing protocol at the world cup?
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Whats that crazy one that the Russians all love?
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09-02-2016, 07:15 PM
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#570
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Whats that crazy one that the Russians all love?
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Bath Salts?
Crocodil?
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09-02-2016, 08:18 PM
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#571
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Whats that crazy one that the Russians all love?
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Meldonium.
Its banned in the NHL starting this season.
It sounds like something Captain America's shield would be made out of.
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09-05-2016, 08:56 AM
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#572
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Since the other World Cup threads have turned into fights over the merits of the tournament, let's keep this one to actual news.
Jokipakka is being paired with Sami Vatanen to start camp.
Darren Haynes
Darren Haynes – @DarrenWHaynes
Iffy all summer after hip surgery, #Flames D Jyrki Jokipakka seems good to go for Finland. Per @snseanreynolds, is paired with Sami Vatanen
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09-05-2016, 09:11 AM
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#573
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Johnny is paired with Saad and Eichel to start camp:
Mark Spector
Mark Spector – Verified account @SportsnetSpec
Eichel playing between Gaudreau and Saad early.
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09-05-2016, 09:23 AM
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#574
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Team North America lines today:
Mark Spector
Mark Spector – Verified account @SportsnetSpec
NA lines at this point:
Drouin-McDavid-Scheifele,
Gaudreau-Eichel-Saad
MacKinnon-RNH-Larkin
Miller-Couturier-Matthews/Trocheck
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09-05-2016, 10:02 AM
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#575
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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2016 World Cup of Hockey
Canada lines today:
Renaud Lavoie
Renaud Lavoie – @renlavoietva
#canada Marchand-Crosby-Bergeron,
Couture-Toews-Seguin
Tavares-Getzlaf-Stamkos
Duchene-Giroux-Thornton #CDM2016
Renaud Lavoie
Renaud Lavoie – @renlavoietva
#canada Vlasic-Weber
Muzzin-Doughty
Pietrangelo-Burns
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09-05-2016, 10:11 AM
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#576
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: A glass case of emotion
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MissTeeks
Gaudreau-Eichel-Saad
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Future US top line perhaps.
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09-05-2016, 11:12 AM
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#577
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary
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Backlund is Sweden's extra forward apparently.
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09-05-2016, 11:28 AM
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#578
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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I still can't believe Muzzin made the team over Gio or Brody.
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09-05-2016, 11:46 AM
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#579
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Frederik Andersen is out for Team Europe with a back injury.
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09-05-2016, 11:48 AM
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#580
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MissTeeks
Team North America lines today:
Mark Spector
Mark Spector – Verified account @SportsnetSpec
NA lines at this point:
Drouin-McDavid-Scheifele,
Gaudreau-Eichel-Saad
MacKinnon-RNH-Larkin
Miller-Couturier-Matthews/Trocheck
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If it were up to me, I would put Matthews on McDavid's line, and put Scheifele with COuturier as a defensive line.
Or slide Drouin to the right side and put MacKinnon with them.
And for the US line, Larkin might be a better choice than Saad. Either way, it will be interesting to watch Gaudreau and Eichel
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