I'd just assume it's because Ned taught Jon how to fight and probably said the same thing to him at some point. Just a passing down of knowledge type thing.
When you see things like this in a TV show or a movie it's almost always not by accident.
These shots are all carefully framed, directed, shot and edited. For a show with this production value, you aren't going to 'see' anything you aren't supposed to.
When you see things like this in a TV show or a movie it's almost always not by accident.
These shots are all carefully framed, directed, shot and edited. For a show with this production value, you aren't going to 'see' anything you aren't supposed to.
This is super freakin' fishy to me.
I'm not saying you're right or wrong, but why isn't the Jon is just like his father argument good enough? It is a call back to the earlier episodes that only some fans will notice. A nice little detail/homage to show how Ned trained his kids.
When you see things like this in a TV show or a movie it's almost always not by accident.
These shots are all carefully framed, directed, shot and edited. For a show with this production value, you aren't going to 'see' anything you aren't supposed to.
This is super freakin' fishy to me.
I think so too. The flashback scene was done for a specific reason.
Fishy like how? It's a cool detail that GL spotted - but what do you see about it that's building towards something significant? Like the vision Bran saw wasn't accurate, and was somehow manipulated or planted by the three eyed raven? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying I don't follow you.
I wonder if it was meant to show us how much Jon cared for Olly, treating him like family during the training. He obviously cared a lot for the boy before the betrayal. Now how will he deal with him that he is back?
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I'm not saying you're right or wrong, but why isn't the Jon is just like his father argument good enough? It is a call back to the earlier episodes that only some fans will notice. A nice little detail/homage to show how Ned trained his kids.
Well this doesn't fit the "Jon Snow is a Taergaryen " Theory at all and I choose to ignore this. Unless you mean his adopted Father then yes it makes sense.
This season has been excellent so far and I cannot wait for Sunday.
I'm not saying you're right or wrong, but why isn't the Jon is just like his father argument good enough? It is a call back to the earlier episodes that only some fans will notice. A nice little detail/homage to show how Ned trained his kids.
But I don't think Ned is Jon's father.
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Fishy like how? It's a cool detail that GL spotted - but what do you see about it that's building towards something significant? Like the vision Bran saw wasn't accurate, and was somehow manipulated or planted by the three eyed raven? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying I don't follow you.
I think Bran is being deceived by the three eyed raven. It's tough to elaborate because we really have no idea on just what makes this world tick Does the 3 eyed raven have a boss? etc.
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I thought the books and the show had basically caught up with each other?
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Fair enough. You're right that we don't really know how these visions work - I kind of hope we never find out technical nitty gritty stuff (I don't care how many midichlorians Bran has). I guess it just never occurred to me that deception or manipulation of what Bran sees would even be possible. Interesting food for thought.
Nature vs Nurture. Whether or not Ned is Jon's biological father, he is definitely the man who raised Jon.
I don't think there's anything fishy about Jon repeating something that he likely heard Ned say numerous times when he was growing up. I think it's like GreenLantern said, it was more to show that Jon treated Olly like a younger brother in much the same way that Ned treated Benjen.
If Jon and Ned had no known previous relationship, there might be something to be suspicious of. As it stands, I think it just shows that Jon was Ned's son, whether biological or not.
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I think Bran is being deceived by the three eyed raven. It's tough to elaborate because we really have no idea on just what makes this world tick Does the 3 eyed raven have a boss? etc.
This is really interesting. I never thought of that before. I just assumed the children of the forest were natural enemies of the white walkers, so they were on the humans side.
It would make sense that the children would be equally hateful of humans though. Bran could be being manipulated into taking out the humans too.
Perhaps the ultimate goal of the 3 eyed raven is to control the dragons and use them against the humans. I'm assuming the "you will fly" comment was about worging into dragons. You're right, it seems odd that the 3 eyed raven would suddenly care about who controls the iron throne.
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I thought the books and the show had basically caught up with each other?
I haven't actually read the books, but from what I understand:
Not quite. The show is actually ahead of the books in some areas too though. Also different storylines have been assigned to to different characters. And things that are happening in one are not necessarily happening in the other.
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I haven't actually read the books, but from what I understand:
Not quite. The show is actually ahead of the books in some areas too though. Also different storylines have been assigned to to different characters. And things that are happening in one are not necessarily happening in the other.
This is pretty much true, but what the key point is while pretty much most major book plot points are covered, the books are full of hints and timbits. Some of these look to be most def true, and others, well who the heck knows with GRR Martin, he seems to hate the obvious.
Pretty much everything went as expected that episode. Don't mean that in a bad way either. Stories are progressing nicely. Hope we get more Bran flashbacks.
The Sword of the Morning was awesome. One of the best choreographed fight scenes I've ever seen.
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Pretty much everything went as expected that episode. Don't mean that in a bad way either. Stories are progressing nicely. Hope we get more Bran flashbacks.
I wish I could see the progression you do. I'm frustrated that there are 10 hours a season and the slow play has really turned me off.
Arya's story has taken longer than I can believe. Same goes for Danaryus' (sp?) capture and imprisonment.
Sam can go take a hike. That has to be the weakest part of the show. He reminds me of that guy in Lost that always said 'dude' and had no bearing on anything.
Perhaps these characters that have 'survived' are so much less compelling to me than the ones that died and the void hasn't been filled. I get that it made for great intrigue with all the twists but I find my interest waning with all the drawn out stories with no pay off.
