[News] The Edmonton Oilers win the draft lottery and will select 1st overall

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by devo22

Yeah he'd have to wait 2 years to re-enter the draft. In other words: it's not going to happen.

I wouldn't be so sure about that -- he's only giving up something under 2 mil in salary etc for an ELC, and would easily recoup that later. At 20 he's a pretty likable commodity for the next picker.

He didn't exactly look.......excited.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

No, but it's still not going to happen; if he doesn't want to play there he'll Lindros and he'll get traded for a king's ransom. That, too, is exceedingly unlikely; the league is a different place than it was 20 years ago.

[Gaudfather]

When you watch this video the guy could not be less enthused about the prospect of going to the No Goods. I bet McDavid and his high priced advisors are all probably strategizing about how they can avoid being relegated to NoGood Gulag.

http:////www.tsn.ca/video/mcdavid-i-...-coat-1.260833

[jg13]

The issue is even if McDavid doesn't sign with the Oilers and re enters the draft in 2 years, the Oil will be right there ready to draft him first overall again.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

No, but it's still not going to happen; if he doesn't want to play there he'll Lindros and he'll get traded for a king's ransom. That, too, is exceedingly unlikely; the league is a different place than it was 20 years ago.

I hear that a lot. But what, in particular, is different about the league today to make a Lindros holdout exceedingly unlikely? I'm not trying to be combative - I'm genuinely curious.

[FlamesAddiction]

Yeah, the entry level deal limits now make it a really hard for a newly drafted player to hold out from a business standpoint. Burning those first 3 years is huge factor for them.

He would be able to make some money in the KHL in the mean time, but I doubt that evens it out.

[Vinny01]

Why wouldn't they keep Leon and develop him as a big 3rd line C for now? His value can't be that high.

Also MacT said he is not trading any of their big 4 forwards.

I think the Pens pick is certainly in play

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Why would Draisaitl's value not be high? I wouldn't be surprised if you could get Phil friggin' Kessel, if you wanted.

I think player attitudes have changed to a point where it's so completely looked-down-upon that it would just never happen. The ELC process is one thing, but it's just the culture is different.

Even if it did, you'd probably never know; likely it'd be worked out beforehand, the Oil would trade the pick at the draft and claim they didn't want to but received an offer they couldn't refuse, or some such.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

Just wondering here: if he pulls a Lindros and refuses to sign, he has to wait two years to be redrafted? Is that correct? If not, what actually happens?

If the damage isn't too bad, if I were him, I would seriously consider it.

I see very little chance at all that he entertains not signing with the Oilers. He might not be thrilled as of yesterday about being drafted by them, but he and his agent are smiling ear to ear about his first contract negotiations. We are talking about an organization that does not hand out bridge contracts. MCDavid could play a one sided game if he wants and still get a 6-7 year contract after his ELC expires.

[Gaudfather]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

I see very little chance at all that he entertains not signing with the Oilers. He might not be thrilled as of yesterday about being drafted by them, but he and his agent are smiling ear to ear about his first contract negotiations. We are talking about an organization that does not hand out bridge contracts. MCDavid could play a one sided game if he wants and still get a 6-7 year contract after his ELC expires.

The contract terms will be relatively close no matter what team he signs with. But for off-ice endorsement deals - the NoGood Gulag is probably the worst place to be signed. I am sure McDavid was secretly hoping Toronto got the #1 pick as his endorsement deals there would have been off the charts.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

I doubt they trade RNH; he's a good hockey player and if he ends up as a 2nd line C, while he'll never be Malkin he could play a similar role for them. Meanwhile, Draisaitl is wasted on the third line, and I agree, they should be looking at a good under 25 y/o defenseman.

I doubt Vancouver would trade their current starting goalie and their #2 defenseman for him though; realistically I doubt either team wants to trade these types of players within their division.

the Canucks were willing to move Schnieder there when they traded him to NJ, but where from NJ all they wanted was a 1st, they wanted a 1st and 2nd plus Marincin from Edmonton

its a move Edmonton still probably should have made

[Darkwater]

day drunk.. can't deal, ha.. drink up friends. this is a horrid day. only silver lining is we will light those diving canucks.

-_-

[SportsJunky]

I agree with the notion that Edmonton needs to start calling teams about D and G now. Maybe throw in the Pittsburgh 1st rounder to nab a big fish. Eberle or Yak plus the Pittsburgh pick? Lots of great trading pieces now.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Gaudfather

The contract terms will be relatively close no matter what team he signs with. But for off-ice endorsement deals - the NoGood Gulag is probably the worst place to be signed. I am sure McDavid was secretly hoping Toronto got the #1 pick as his endorsement deals there would have been off the charts.

I have no doubt he wanted to go to Toronto. Maybe just me but I doubt the endorsement deals would differ that much from playing in Edmonton or Arizona. Other than Toronto, he was never going to end up playing in a mega market.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Why wouldn't they keep Leon and develop him as a big 3rd line C for now? His value can't be that high.

Also MacT said he is not trading any of their big 4 forwards.

I think the Pens pick is certainly in play

they also dont need to trade anyone this year

they arent contending for a playoff spot next year as others have pointed out even in Crosby's first year the Pens were still garbage

maybe Draisatl takes a big step forward this year and looks like a big number 2 center, then it makes trading RNH a lot easier who would have a lot more value and bring a lot more in return

or what if Yakupov scores 30 goals playing with RNH or McDavid, his value sky rockets

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

its a move Edmonton still probably should have made

Yeah, I think that was the Darnell Nurse pick and he's their best blue line prospect, but I think you're right. Of course, they might not be in this situation had they done so; Schneider's save percentage plus this year's Oilers team isn't bottom 3 in the league.

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by Gaudfather

The contract terms will be relatively close no matter what team he signs with. But for off-ice endorsement deals - the NoGood Gulag is probably the worst place to be signed. I am sure McDavid was secretly hoping Toronto got the #1 pick as his endorsement deals there would have been off the charts.

Non-issue.

If McDavid is the player he's hyped up to be he'll be doing so many National and North America wide endorsements that he won't have time for local stuff anyway.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by Matty81

People who are sticking their head in the sand and saying things like its the oilers they'll ruin him anyway need to wake up. The kid is the best 17 year old since crosby, maybe better. He scored 3 points a game in the Chl as a 17 year old.

Our biggest rivals just became contenders for a decade... Because they refused to improve their team by moving any youth to balance out their roster or sign a goalie in the offseason and traded off a bunch of vets again.

At the same time the flames are busting their butts to squeek in, and end up likely further away from winning a cup.

North american pro sports drafts are just disgusting. Honestly this kind of thing almost puts me off the nhl

well put...

If McDavid turns out to be what he is projected to be, all the fans that are "ok" with this will be faced with a harsh reality. That McDavid and the cadre of first rounders annually crush Calgary just like the late eighties.

Its like when Crosby and the Pens destroyed Calgary this year...but it happening 80% time versus the freaking Oilers...

yeah, good times, that...

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Non-issue.

If McDavid is the player he's hyped up to be he'll be doing so many National and North America wide endorsements that he won't have time for local stuff anyway.

If he was in Toronto he would have his own television network covering him. You don't think that's worth some $?

It's still a better situation than being in Arizona, though, in that sense. But he'd probably trade that for the weather.

[Locke]

I'm actually fine with it. Look at MacT's face, look at that stupid smug grin he has over a 'job well done!'

This isnt going to fix anything.