NHL 15 Thread

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by codynw

It does though. The last game to come out on PC (can't remember what year) modders found TONS of evidence of an ice tilt mechanic in the game, and nothing has changed since then.
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[Diemenz]

Like mentioned before ice tilt does not exist.

The CPU changes its strategy when trailing late in the game and it would appear that those complaining do not. When the other team goes all out attack you need to change your strategy accordingly (remember you control those strategies so your the only one to blame for not reacting to them).

The reason you see more shots from far away go in is because the computer shoots more late in the game when trailing. Those same shots from the point with bodies in front would go in if it was the first period as well but the CPU strategy is not setup to take them that early on.

Its seems weird that people want a "simulation" but would prefer the computer AI to play the exact same way the entire game which would be arcade game play. You cant have both.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by Diemenz

Like mentioned before ice tilt does not exist.

The CPU changes its strategy when trailing late in the game and it would appear that those complaining do not. When the other team goes all out attack you need to change your strategy accordingly (remember you control those strategies so your the only one to blame for not reacting to them).

The reason you see more shots from far away go in is because the computer shoots more late in the game when trailing. Those same shots from the point with bodies in front would go in if it was the first period as well but the CPU strategy is not setup to take them that early on.

Its seems weird that people want a "simulation" but would prefer the computer AI to play the exact same way the entire game which would be arcade game play. You cant have both.

How do I change my strategy to "score on every single shot, no matter where it's taken from"?

[Chill Cosby]

Originally Posted by codynw

How do I change my strategy to "score on every single shot, no matter where it's taken from"?

It's in the strategy menu, should be right beside "exaggerate the problem to make it seem more legitimate" strategy.

I believe that's one of the defensive ones.
Best used short-handed.

[Diemenz]

Originally Posted by codynw

How do I change my strategy to "score on every single shot, no matter where it's taken from"?

I have played around 1000 games versus on the computer on nhl14 and more then 1500 on each of the previous installments. Because I have never seen "score on every single shot, no matter where it's taken from" I cannot comment on why you are seeing these issues. I change my defense to collapse and try to play positionaly and do not chase the hit or the puck.

Next time the computer scores on every single shot no matter where it's taken from take a video and share it so we can give feedback on how you can correct your gameplay to account for it.

[cSpooge]

Originally Posted by codynw

How do I change my strategy to "score on every single shot, no matter where it's taken from"?

turn off no goalies + super rebounds and that should help.

[Bean]

I think these 'ice tilt' goals are due to nothing more than the AI Learn slider that is available in the gameplay options. If you keep playing the same style during the game of course the CPU will adapt accordingly.

Like a previous poster said, if you're playing a little more cautious at the end of the game, there's a great chance that the CPU won't score on you if you collapse and play more defensive minded.

When can we expect the demo to come out?

[Mr.Coffee]

I find that goals seem to go in easier towards the end of a game either against or for me. It just seems easier at the end of a game, could be that I'm taking larger risks and usually going blitz though.

Anyway, these NHL 20XX games need a major overhaul. One can already tell that this will be the same #### different year. EA takes out aspects only to put them in years later. Only minor updates that are lazy in execution. I didn't buy NHL 14, and I won't buy this one. It's sad because in actuality it would be why I buy an XBOX 1 altogether, but on the bright side now I get to keep my money I guess.

EA needs to get their #### together. They can put out a way better game than this, I believe. And they can add way more features and upgrades and improvements. But they take the lazy approach because people still buy it. Well, not anymore from this guy. Figure it out EA.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

I find that goals seem to go in easier towards the end of a game either against or for me. It just seems easier at the end of a game, could be that I'm taking larger risks and usually going blitz though.

Anyway, these NHL 20XX games need a major overhaul. One can already tell that this will be the same #### different generation. EA takes out aspects only to put them in years later. Only minor updates that are lazy in execution. I didn't buy NHL 14, and I won't buy this one. It's sad because in actuality it would be why I buy an XBOX 1 altogether, but on the bright side now I get to keep my money I guess.

EA needs to get their #### together. They can put out a way better game than this, I believe. And they can add way more features and upgrades and improvements. But they take the lazy approach because people still buy it. Well, not anymore from this guy. Figure it out EA.

FYP.

To be fair they haven't really showed off anything yet, at least anything that will realistically resemble what you're going to experience in game. I'm not sure what the hold up is, the game is around a month away from release. I would've thought we'd have seen some real gameplay clips by now.

[Russic]

I hate to let this degrade into a pissing contest, but generally anytime I see somebody complain about a computer strategy and I have the ability to actually witness it, it's boils down to them doing something dumb. A good example of this is cross crease goals. My response to people complaining about them has always been "why are you letting your opponent send a pass through your crease?". Have you noticed how many cross-crease goals happen in real life? When they're executed they're highly effective, so they're defended against accordingly.

How many goals are scored in the final 2 minutes of a hockey game? Is it more on average than the other 29 2-minute segments? My guess would be yes. It's hail mary time, when the team behind pretty much abandons all notions of defence and goes full Dion. And you never go full Dion.

[Diemenz]

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This is no place for common sense.

This thread is only for irrational EA hate.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by Russic

I hate to let this degrade into a pissing contest, but generally anytime I see somebody complain about a computer strategy and I have the ability to actually witness it, it's boils down to them doing something dumb. A good example of this is cross crease goals. My response to people complaining about them has always been "why are you letting your opponent send a pass through your crease?". Have you noticed how many cross-crease goals happen in real life? When they're executed they're highly effective, so they're defended against accordingly.

How many goals are scored in the final 2 minutes of a hockey game? Is it more on average than the other 29 2-minute segments? My guess would be yes. It's hail mary time, when the team behind pretty much abandons all notions of defence and goes full Dion. And you never go full Dion.

Pretty much agree, but I do have to concede that my issue with the cross-crease goals wasn't the fact that the finished play was highly effective (this reflects reality), it was the fact that you could have one executed on you so incredibly easily. It has always been extremely difficult as a non-NPC to intercept/deflect passes, and if you were to bump or interfere at all with the receiving player you were usually given an interference call.

They have made some strides in improving the defensive aspect of the game to be more in stride with the offensive, but IMO they have a long, LONG way to go. It's extremely frustrating having limited capabilities to defend, although if you work at it you can adapt to the mechanics enough to make it partially adequate.

I expect that with the next generation they will be able to make those leaps like they did from the transition of the previous generation.

[Diemenz]

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I do agree that defensively there needs to be better tools. The kneel should block a pass that isn't a saucer and if your squared up in between the passer and receiver and the pass goes right by you I feel the defender should get a stick on it at least 50% of the time(depending on your hand eye skill) I don't mean intercept it but I mean tip it to the corner or similar.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Diemenz

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This is no place for common sense.

This thread is only for irrational EA hate.

and passive aggressive dismissal of legitimate complaints.

[Diemenz]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

and passive aggressive dismissal of legitimate complaints.

Explain.

"Score on every single shot no matter where it's taken from" is not a legitimate complaint it's a gross exaggeration.

A large majority of the complaints in this thread are exaggerations or nit picking (example: colors having a slightly off hue in a YouTube video). Legitimate complaints are discussed, ludicrous exaggerated complaints are treated with disdain. Several of the complaints mentioned from previous versions are faults of the player not the game mechanics and to complain that the game is broken because they haven't spent the time learning all the aspects of the game is not fair.

Buying something then complaining constantly about everything about it is just madness. Nothing in this world is perfect and nothing ever will be.

[AcGold]

The point is clear enough even though it's an exaggeration. Attacking the point of every goal going in doesn't make sense, obviously every one knows every shot doesn't go in. The question is whether rubber banding/ice tilt exists in the game of which I have never found but it's a legitimate argument, why focus on the exaggeration when clearly it was an emotional reaction?

[Chill Cosby]

Originally Posted by AcGold

The point is clear enough even though it's an exaggeration. Attacking the point of every goal going in doesn't make sense, obviously every one knows every shot doesn't go in. The question is whether rubber banding/ice tilt exists in the game of which I have never found but it's a legitimate argument, why focus on the exaggeration when clearly it was an emotional reaction?

Why exaggerate if you have a legitimate complaint?

[Hockeyguy15]

Wow, this thread has turned into hot garbage.

[Freeway]

I hope this game is fun and enjoyable, as I like playing video game hockey when the games are easy to play.

[Nehkara]

Top 5 goalies in NHL 15:

5. Pekka Rinne (91 OV)

4. Tuuka Rask (92 OV)

3. Carey Price (92 OV)

2. Jonathan Quick (93 OV)

1. Henrik Lundqvist (93 OV)


Top 5 LWers in NHL 15:

5. Jamie Benn (90 OV)

4. Taylor Hall (90 OV)

3. Zach Parise (90 OV)

2. Henrik Zetterberg (92 OV)

1. Alexander Ovechkin (93 OV)


Top D-men in NHL 15:

5. Zdeno Chara (91 OV)

4. Drew Doughty (91 OV)

3. Ryan Suter (92 OV)

2. Duncan Keith (92 OV)

1. Shea Weber (93 OV)