#occupy<insertlocalehere>

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by HOZ

It is pretty hard to seriously believe that this is a protest when most of the people are continuously stoned, drunk or otherwise inebriated and increasingly, in the US, violent. Supposedly the abuse inside of the OWS camp has gotten to the point where they have set up a women's only part.

If this was really about unfairness of the bailout. Why are they not dogging the guy who happily handed them all that money and benefits the most from their largesse?

Because not everyone is blinded by political affiliation to realize that pretty much anyone in that situation would have done basically the same thing.

[Ashartus]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

What list of demands, its an empty google docs page?

It's not empty when I view it - there's a list of 60 different demands.

[jar_e]

Originally Posted by Canuck-Hater

I did. The bottom line is the police can take pictures of whoever they want and put them on a database, even if they are innocent. So if they wanna talk about high-tech intimidation, well it goes both ways. This is just the neo-con media with another attempt at undermining and bashing the occupy movement. And furthermore with the Mikey comment, you can get "bent"

It doesn't go both ways. One is completely legal and is the main reason this whole movement is so popular (taking photos/video of anyone in public like the media) and the other is criminal harassment.

Huge difference.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Ashartus

It's not empty when I view it - there's a list of 60 different demands.

Ok, this is the same really crappy list that Occupy Vancouver posted, 90% of its completely nonsense, 10% is pie in the sky why the hell should we do it.

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Ok, this is the same really crappy list that Occupy Vancouver posted, 90% of its completely nonsense, 10% is pie in the sky why the hell should we do it.

I dunno Captain. #39 is one I can really get behind and riot about!!!!

39. We demand that prostitution be legalized and regulated as it is in New Zealand.


WHORES FOR EVERYONE!!!!

And covered by healthcare!!!
29. We demand massage, dental and eye care be covered under the health care system.

[TorqueDog]

Google Docs page is working for me now too, and... wow. They demand the release of all non-violent criminals... but I thought they demanded earlier in the list that white-collar crime be prosecuted? So what, if you're found guilty of a crime that is 'white-collar' in nature, you have to write lines on a chalkboard and pay a fine?

These people are insane.

[BloodFetish]

Originally Posted by HOZ

I dunno Captain. #39 is one I can really get behind and riot about!!!!

39. We demand that prostitution be legalized and regulated as it is in New Zealand.


WHORES FOR EVERYONE!!!!

And covered by healthcare!!!
29. We demand massage, dental and eye care be covered under the health care system.

Whoah! Legal prostitution and government funded massage?

Now I'm firmly behind the Occupy movement. Happy Endings, here we come!

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

Google Docs page is working for me now too, and... wow. They demand the release of all non-violent criminals... but I thought they demanded earlier in the list that white-collar crime be prosecuted? So what, if you're found guilty of a crime that is 'white-collar' in nature, you have to write lines on a chalkboard and pay a fine?

These people are insane.

Oh dude, you don't understand, if you make more then 30k a year you are the enemy.

[CaptainCrunch]

Dude If I sold Crystal meth to a bunch of kids, and they overdosed and died, thats non violent right?

Attica Attica

[Devils'Advocate]

Hrm. Quite the laundry list. But it is *NOT* on the #occupycanada Facebook page. And even the link says that it was a rough draft put out by membership of the #occupyvancouver group. It definitely, as far as I am reading, represent, #occupycanada.

In any case, the problem with having such a huge list is that there is going to be a dozen or more that I am in disagreement with. They should focus on 5 goals.

Some of them are no-brainers. We need stronger whistle-blowing legislation. We should adopt federally what New Brunswick has instituted provincially:
28. Notwithstanding anything in this Act an employer shall not dismiss, suspend, lay off, penalize, discipline or discriminate against an employee if the reason therefor is related in any way to
(b) the making of a complaint or the giving of information or evidence by the employee against the employer with respect to any matter covered by this act; or
(c) the giving of information or evidence by the employee against the employer with respect to the alleged violation of any Provincial or federal Act or regulation by the employer while carrying on the employer's business; or if the dismissal, suspension, layoff, penalty, discipline or discrimination constitutes in any way an attempt by the employer to evade any responsibility imposed upon him under this Act or any other Provincial or federal Act or regulation or to prevent or inhibit an employee from taking advantage of any right or benefit granted to him under this Act.

[simonsays]

The demands on the #occupycanada wiki are horrible. They're self contradictory and immature. I personally support the concept of trying to recreate a middle class out of our economic structure, but not at the cost of tearing the whole thing down.

I think things like this only weaken the supporters of that basic cause, because there are some good concepts in there. But why go so far as to nationalize the banks? Or is that fails to legislate a maximum interest rate. Interest rates equate risk. Risk can be decreased by proving over your history that you are 'good for it', ie: paying back your loans.

Credit cards are risky situations and it's easy to default on them, lines of credit are less risky and are given to decent costumers and mortgages are even less risky as ther is at least an asset to back them up. I just don't understand what these kids are asking for sometimes.

Even though I support the occupy where-ever movement, I don't support idiots. And the people who thought up the #occupycanada demands are clearly delusional.

[Devils'Advocate]

Originally Posted by simonsays

The demands on the #occupycanada wiki are horrible.

Could you point me to the #occupycanada wiki? I can't find it.

[HotHotHeat]

I haven't followed this whole situation very closely, mainly because I think these protestors are going about making their point in an awful and immature way, but I have to mention that the story about dumping McDonlads applications on their camp in Chicago actually made me laugh. Well played Chicago Trades Board.

[HOZ]

The "protest" is nearing the jumping point

[c.t.ner]

Well I found this quite interesting. I was just checking out the political section in the Huffington post this morning and came across an interestingly worded advert from the Oil & Gas Labour-Management Committee.

"Hollywood's 1% are coming to DC"

http://jobsforthe99.com/

Just thought it was an interesting use of the most commonly referenced slogan during the movement.

[TorqueDog]

^ Clever. I thought the same thing when seeing that Julia Louis-Dreyfus spot against the Keystone XL.

[simonsays]

Originally Posted by Ashartus

There's a list of demands posted for "Occupy Canada" - while some of them are reasonable a lot are either unrealistic, anti-science, or downright silly.

Occupy Canada demands for those that missed it the first time.

[CaptainCrunch]

Yeah, the majority of them are still stupid no matter how many times they're recycled.

[Barnet Flame]

Originally Posted by Bent Wookie

Wow... very clever play on words.

Tell me, what do you know about what police take pictures of? Do you know how they are stored or how they are used? So do you know what happens to photos of persons acquitted of crime(s)?

I can guarantee you that the police do not take pictures of family members of persons involved in crime. Nor do they release any of the photos/information of those accused unless there is a public safety issue.

So clearly, you are talking out your a$$. Do some research before you make yourself look like a dummy.

I'm pretty sure you can't make that guarantee.

That said, doxing and intimidation of the families of even the biggest dbag cop is wrong on any level you can think of.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by woob

Personal safety, hey? Kinda like what happens when a police officer maces you for no reason? Thought so.

Garbage post. You're just ducking the point. You can't hide behind the 'we just put the info out there' excuse, you know damn well what the information is used for.