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Old 03-15-2025, 04:17 AM   #5761
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David Eby excluded Tesla from the provincial EV rebates program. Elon is upset.

https://www.timescolonist.com/local-...e-ban-10377653

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Elon Musk, CEO of Tesla Inc. and a senior adviser to U.S. President Donald Trump, had a short response to B.C. Premier David Eby’s justification for removing rebates for his company’s electric-vehicle chargers.

“Crazy,” wrote Musk on his social media platform X.com, in response to a video of Eby speaking about the rebate ban.

BC Hydro posted a memo on its website Wednesday saying Tesla products are no longer eligible for EV charger rebates, which range from $350 for a residential unit to $2,000 for a workplace unit.

Eby was asked why on Thursday, and whether the change to the rebate policy applied to all U.S. manufacturers or just Tesla.

“Yeah, it’s just for Tesla, and it’s because of Elon Musk,” said Eby.

“I think if tens of thousands of taxpayers’ money was going to Elon Musk, they would want to throw up, so we removed them.”
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Old 03-15-2025, 05:28 AM   #5762
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He said it so directly and cold, actually laughed. Kinda wish I still had twitter so I could see the Elon fans have a cry in the replies


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Old 03-15-2025, 06:02 AM   #5763
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David Eby excluded Tesla from the provincial EV rebates program. Elon is upset.

https://www.timescolonist.com/local-...e-ban-10377653
This is obviously a wild and unique decision, but we’re in wild times and need some crazy ideas.
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Old 03-15-2025, 08:06 AM   #5764
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Wrong there is no acceptable position to support a nazi.

Also your numbers I am confident are highly flawed and likely straight up wrong. Show me the detailed analysis of carbon footprint including mining of minerals shipping them around the world and blood diamonds catastrophe to get there. I’m willing to bet the environmental impact is negligible or ignoring the mining impact and for example to be specific there’s a difference between exclusively focusing on emissions vs the rape and pillage of earth for mining transport shipping transport convert to useful material manufacturing battery transport etc.

Such a joke.

#### Musk and #### Tesla.
I do not support the Nazi either, but the numbers are true:

https://www.carbonbrief.org/factchec...tric-vehicles/

What you're missing on analysis is that yes, you need to disturb land to mine and ship the contents. But gasoline needs to be explored, drilled, shipped, refined, and shipped again too. It isn't created in the fuel tanks at the gas station either. In fact, all of the mining necessary to replace all EVs would disturb way less land than needed to drill for the oil.
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Old 03-15-2025, 08:46 AM   #5765
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And again, I hate Tesla for reasons even beyond the Nazi, but Hitler did sort of create Volkswagen, no?

Life is complicated and evil people can have done great things too. Supporting Tesla now puts money in Elon's pockets as he owns significant shares. But I don't support demonizing people who already own a Tesla. The company itself has done some really good things and they do have some compelling vehicles.
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Transportation of fossil fuels is a massive source of carbon emissions on it's own, even without production and actual use.

40% of all shipping is just oil, gas, and coal, and oil pipes are infamous for their tendency to leak and pollute the soil and groundwater.
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Did VW have him bought and paid for, therefor had to do this??? Or is it not really like the situation today?

(This is a shot at this little bitch of a president, not the meme)
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Old 03-15-2025, 10:55 AM   #5769
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The Cybertruck has been an idiotic vehicle since its concept. It deserves to be laughed at on its own accord. It's so, so dumb.
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I’d be afraid to drive that ugly piece of #### around.
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Tesla and Greenwashing

https://blogs.gwu.edu/law-gwpointsou...-greenwashing/

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While Tesla’s innovative products have undoubtedly contributed to the EV revolution, allegations of non-disclosure or manipulation of information raise important questions about transparency and authenticity in corporate sustainability efforts. As consumers increasingly seek eco-friendly alternatives, it is imperative that companies like Tesla uphold the highest standards of environmental accountability and provide accurate information to make informed choices. Tesla’s practices not only deceive consumers but also undermine the credibility of the environmental movement and the collective effort to combat climate change. It is crucial for companies to prioritize true sustainability over superficial marketing tactics and deliver on their promises for a greener future.
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Old 03-15-2025, 11:53 AM   #5772
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I’d be afraid to drive that ugly piece of #### around.
Can you put fridge magnets on it? That might help with the decor.
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Can you put fridge magnets on it? That might help with the decor.
I’m not referring to the truck’s look, although it is ugly as hell. I’d be concerned about people’s reactions and risk of vandalism, although vandalism might improve its appearance.
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I’m not referring to the truck’s look, although it is ugly as hell. I’d be concerned about people’s reactions and risk of vandalism, although vandalism might improve its appearance.
Its kind of funny...the truck itself is...just unfathomably stupid. Start to finish.

But I do like that its durable.

That way you could take every scratch, dent and ding and even mild vandalism as almost a 'badge of honour.'

Except for the fact that the truck itself sucks entirely, its ugly, almost completely useless and generates revenue for a Nazi prick and people who purchased and drive one should be truly ashamed of themselves.

Then again...all Tesla owners should feel that way.

Tesla is subsidizing modern day fascism and not at all 'saving the planet through the magic of electricity.'
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That should be Tesla's new Corporate Slogan!

"Tesla! Subsidizing modern day Fascism!"
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Anyone who bought that piece of #### deserves to be mocked and laughed at.
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The cyber truck isn't durable, hell the skin is glued on and falls off in cold weather.





It appears the exoskeleton is molting.
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Wrong there is no acceptable position to support a nazi.

Also your numbers I am confident are highly flawed and likely straight up wrong. Show me the detailed analysis of carbon footprint including mining of minerals shipping them around the world and blood diamonds catastrophe to get there. I’m willing to bet the environmental impact is negligible or ignoring the mining impact and for example to be specific there’s a difference between exclusively focusing on emissions vs the rape and pillage of earth for mining transport shipping transport convert to useful material manufacturing battery transport etc.

Such a joke.

#### Musk and #### Tesla.
I was not making any comment about supporting Musk, or buying Teslas in the future. But Tesla 15 years ago it a great thing for our environmental future, there is little denying that. I also say Tesla, because I'm reluctant to give Musk credit, since he bought out and latched onto a technology others developed.

The idea that EVs have a higher carbon foot print than ICEVs is out right brainwashed Alberta bull####. There is no room at all for middle ground on that, the conservative numbers are at 3:1. The hoops people need to jump through to believe this are shocking and a case study in motivated reasoning.

https://www.theguardian.com/business...g-for-minerals

https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...5965262300269X

https://www.cotes.com/blog/greenhous...s-ice-vehicles

One should also remember that as grids get greener, because PEV and Wind generation actually have cheaper unit costs that conventional grid generation methods, that those China and India numbers will rapidly improve to better than 3:1 like Europe and America. And you should remember for that the Majority of Canada our grid is much cleaner than the US, so the numbers are even better, and that people in Alberta do have the option of self generating for their car, making it even better.


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Mark Rober vs Tesla's collision detection technology vs LIDAR.

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