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Old 01-11-2023, 04:43 PM   #5641
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Fair enough, ya. My brain went straight to action, not more serious thriller types.
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Old 01-11-2023, 04:47 PM   #5642
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Fair enough, ya. My brain went straight to action, not more serious thriller types.
Well I think an argument could me made the mid budget action movies got pushed out too. John Wick being a modern exception.

Top Gun and Die Hard weren’t exactly huge budget movies. Top Gun only cost $15m. Even factoring inflation, that’s more comparable to a low level no name action movie nowadays. Like that pilot movie that just came out and bombed a month ago. About the WW2 pilots? Don’t even know the name.

Those movies have been squeezed out too. And probably for a similar reason as the adult drama/thriller.
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Actually this definitely applies to mid budget adult action movies too.

For example when the studio agreed to make Live Free or Die Hard, they had so little faith in the franchise despite the success of DH 1-3, they insisted the movie be PG13 as a condition of being greenlit.

That’s the state of an adult R rated action movie like 15 years ago. It’s only gotten worse since.
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Old 01-11-2023, 05:10 PM   #5644
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Sometimes I forget what good interviews the Hot Ones dude does.

He asks some excellent questions
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There is about an hour worth of clips on youtube compiling just interviewees complimenting him on his research and questions. For example.
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There is about an hour worth of clips on youtube compiling just interviewees complimenting him on his research and questions. For example.

Like Nardwuar, but better.
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Like Nardwuar, but better.
Lol. Better than Nardwuar. No one is better than Nardwuar the human serviette.

Hot ones guy is amateur hour compared to Nardwuar’s research and questions.

Like oooh good job Sean, you looked thru their instagram saw they own an aquarium and asked about salt vs fresh water fish. That’s deep.

Meanwhile, Nardwuar's research included interviewing your family, your classmates from junior high, your 8th grade babysitter, then he tracked down and found the exact copy of the first 8 track you ever bought in the spring of 1986, that you had lent to a friend at summer camp and never got back. An 8 track you only bought because you had a crush on the girl in math class who said she liked that band. And he’s asking if you remember the girl’s name and gifting you back that 8 track you gave away. Meanwhile the artist is crying and calling his mom in tears because this interview changed his life.

But sure, hot ones is better. Blasphemy.

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Lol. Better than Nardwuar. No one is better than Nardwuar the human serviette.

Hot ones guy is amateur hour compared to Nardwuar’s research and questions.

Like oooh good job Sean, you looked thru their instagram saw they own an aquarium and asked about salt vs fresh water fish. That’s deep.

Meanwhile, Nardwuar's research included interviewing your family, your classmates from junior high, your 8th grade babysitter, then he tracked down and found the exact copy of the first 8 track you ever bought in the spring of 1986, that you had lent to a friend at summer camp and never got back. An 8 track you only bought because you had a crush on the girl in math class who said she liked that band. And he’s asking if you remember the girl’s name and gifting you back that 8 track you gave away. Meanwhile the artist is crying and calling his mom in tears because this interview changed his life.

But sure, hot ones is better. Blasphemy.
Sean Evans is better than Nardwuar simply because he isn't relying on some insufferable schtick. Nardwuar's voice is irritating, his look is irritating, his interview style of shoving the mic into a person's face is irritating. I can't make it more than a minute into any of his videos because his speaking "style" is like nails on a chalkboard
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Sean Evans is better than Nardwuar simply because he isn't relying on some insufferable schtick. Nardwuar's voice is irritating, his look is irritating, his interview style of shoving the mic into a person's face is irritating. I can't make it more than a minute into any of his videos because his speaking "style" is like nails on a chalkboard
That's not schtick; that's just Nardwuar. I have a hard time watching Hot Ones because Sean is too deadpan. Different strokes...
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Old 01-11-2023, 11:33 PM   #5650
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Lol. Better than Nardwuar. No one is better than Nardwuar the human serviette.

Hot ones guy is amateur hour compared to Nardwuar’s research and questions.

Like oooh good job Sean, you looked thru their instagram saw they own an aquarium and asked about salt vs fresh water fish. That’s deep.

Meanwhile, Nardwuar's research included interviewing your family, your classmates from junior high, your 8th grade babysitter, then he tracked down and found the exact copy of the first 8 track you ever bought in the spring of 1986, that you had lent to a friend at summer camp and never got back. An 8 track you only bought because you had a crush on the girl in math class who said she liked that band. And he’s asking if you remember the girl’s name and gifting you back that 8 track you gave away. Meanwhile the artist is crying and calling his mom in tears because this interview changed his life.

But sure, hot ones is better. Blasphemy.
This is just the condensed version, but my favourite reaction is Pharrell William's interview with Nardwuar.


Full interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RKbSi87J5Q

"This is one of the most impressive interviews I've ever experienced in my life. This is insane."

"Your research is second to none. Second to none. And I can only imagine you do the same kind of research with every band that you interview, so that's pretty impressive, man."
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That video just shows another issue I have with Nardwuar. He's not trying to have a conversation, he's just trying to throw the most obscure facts about a person's life at them to get a good reaction. It just feels very forced and cringeworthy to me, like trying to talk to someone with autism that can't connect with you on a personal level, they can only recite weird facts and trivia
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I think his 'shtick' sets him apart from all the bland, vanilla interviewers out there. enigmatic people like that who don't do their craft like any one else but are secretly extraordinarily good behind the scenes are hard to not watch. that kind of niche originality is needed

Sean's questions do come off as somebody that just stalked the celeb's Instagram for half a day and is trying hard to look impressive to both the audience and interviewee

I think Sean only takes sincere interest in some guests, and that comes through in the delivery
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That video just shows another issue I have with Nardwuar. He's not trying to have a conversation, he's just trying to throw the most obscure facts about a person's life at them to get a good reaction. It just feels very forced and cringeworthy to me, like trying to talk to someone with autism that can't connect with you on a personal level, they can only recite weird facts and trivia
Agreed, While the research that Nardwuar puts in it exceptional, his questions are meh. Throwing out random facts at people to show your level of research isn't really interviewing.
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Old 01-12-2023, 08:20 AM   #5654
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Scratched MEAN STREETS off my Shame List of movies I hadn't seen last night. Marty really emerged on to the scene fully formed, hey?


I also watched THE EXORCIST II: THE HERETIC. Not a good movie but fascinating none the less.
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Re-watched Baby Driver with my boy this past weekend. It's a good romp, get's a bit lost in the last 1/4 of the movie, but all in all a fun watch.
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Yeah, I can't handle Narduwar for longer than roughly 20 seconds. Evans is kind of formulaic and over-rehearsed a lot of the time, but even at his worst he's listenable and the whole conversation generally flows pretty well.
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Nardwaur has the greatest interview gimmick of all time, he hasn't changed at all in 30+ years and it's seamlessly transitioned from muchmusic to social media. It's kind of crazy to think that this weirdo from vancouver has deeply ingratiated himself into the hip hop community.

Diplo should get a nod for the all-time best "Doot Doot" (12:40):
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I kind of want to see Nardwaur fight Henry Rollins at some point.

I have nothing against Nardwaur though. He’s cool. I just think Sean’s interview style is better and less about being a character in the interview, though I suppose both are based in gimmickiness to varying degrees.
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I just think Sean’s interview style is better and less about being a character in the interview, though I suppose both are based in gimmickiness to varying degrees.
The gimmick with hot ones is the attempt to humanize celebrity, by having it be a normal context (having a conversation over wings), without an audience, and having the person being interviewed have to drop some of the facade because "holy crap this is spicy, I cannot maintain this mask under these conditions". There's a cynical view that in some cases this just allows a different mask to be put on but that's the idea, and it comes across far more genuine than most promotional interviews that people do for things, like late night, which is totally unwatchable for obvious reasons:
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I kind of want to see Nardwaur fight Henry Rollins at some point.

I have nothing against Nardwaur though. He’s cool. I just think Sean’s interview style is better and less about being a character in the interview, though I suppose both are based in gimmickiness to varying degrees.
Rollins apologized to Nardwuar and they did a great follow up interview.

Most of them are on his YouTube channel. It’s great stuff.
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