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Old 11-14-2021, 06:21 PM   #5621
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Zadorov unlikely to be a Flame next year, they'll be in the market for a young cost controlled LHD, so I don't know, maybe keep Valimaki?

He'll play this year. He'll learn. He'll be better for it. Kylington is a prime example

If the Flames didn't have Mackey on a 2-year deal, I would agree. But in that tweener #6/7 role that Valimaki is in right now, Mackey could easily be in that spot and the Flames wouldn't miss a beat.

I'm sure the Flames are not actively shopping Valimaki, but if there's a team that really likes him and are willing to trade a young forward of similar pedigree, they should consider it.
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Monahan-mangiapane looks like it could have some stirrings.

Would really like to get these guys a cerebral rhs to play with them.

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Connor brown showed chemistry with mangi and might not be expensive. Forsberg more expensive but better. Any others that might be out there?
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Old 11-14-2021, 07:07 PM   #5623
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Monahan-mangiapane looks like it could have some stirrings.

Would really like to get these guys a cerebral rhs to play with them.

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Connor brown showed chemistry with mangi and might not be expensive. Forsberg more expensive but better. Any others that might be out there?
Monahan and Mangiapane have improved their defence but Coleman gives them a real level of comfort. Similar to Lindholm on line one, Backs on Line 2.
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Monahan-mangiapane looks like it could have some stirrings.

Would really like to get these guys a cerebral rhs to play with them.

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Connor brown showed chemistry with mangi and might not be expensive. Forsberg more expensive but better. Any others that might be out there?

I hope the Sharks fall off the map and we can pitch them an offer for Kevin LeBanc
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Monahan and Mangiapane have improved their defence but Coleman gives them a real level of comfort. Similar to Lindholm on line one, Backs on Line 2.
You mean Backs on line 3.
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You mean Backs on line 3.
Yes
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I hope the Sharks fall off the map and we can pitch them an offer for Kevin LeBanc
Labanc is another interesting option but I don't love his contract.

I think coleman-backs are better together. Make a.great match up duo, like a better backlund-frolik. Dube adds some nice speed on their wing.
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With the sluggish start for Colorado what do you think the chances MacKinnon could be considered to be moved for the right offer? Landeskog staying keeps him captain for some time and Nate has been annoyed at times in Colorado so would a kings ransom for him sway Colorado? I’d happily pay more for MacKinnon than Eichel and Gaudreau/MacKinnon was absolute magic a few years ago for the NA all star team.

Monahan + Hanifin + Valimaki + Zary + 1st in 22 and 23 both unprotected

For MacKinnon + Girard + 2nd

Gaudreau - MacKinnon - Tkachuk
Mangiapane - Lindholm - Coleman
Dube - Backlund - Lewis
Lucic - Richardson - Pitlick
Duehr, Ritchie

Girard - Andersson
Kylington - Tanev
Zadorov - Gudbranson
Stone, Mackey

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A sluggish start does not mean that a team will trade its generational player for a bunch of stuff. If for some reason he was available, the headliner would be a Lefreniere type player, not Monny lol.


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Old 11-14-2021, 08:39 PM   #5629
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If we're trading Val, one guy I would love to target is young Ottawa Sens C Shane Pinto. He's a righty, has size (6'2"), and was drafted in the 2nd round (32nd overall). He's only played 5 games with 1 point this year (he's out right now with a shoulder injury), but he scored 7 pts in 11 games last year-after picking up 32 pts in 28 games in college. He displays mature defensive acumen, and skates well-he's going to be a hell of a player soon. Problem is, the Sens might be too weak at C to let any go.
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If we're trading Val, one guy I would love to target is young Ottawa Sens C Shane Pinto. He's a righty, has size (6'2"), and was drafted in the 2nd round (32nd overall). He's only played 5 games with 1 point this year (he's out right now with a shoulder injury), but he scored 7 pts in 11 games last year-after picking up 32 pts in 28 games in college. He displays mature defensive acumen, and skates well-he's going to be a hell of a player soon. Problem is, the Sens might be too weak at C to let any go.
Pinto just came back from injury and then reinjured trying to take a faceoff. He looked like his shoulder separated. If he needs surgery, I don't think he's going to be moved anytime soon, as the Sens wouldn't want to be giving any kind of a discount due to perceived weakness. A good target, but timing is bad.
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With the sluggish start for Colorado what do you think the chances MacKinnon could be considered to be moved for the right offer? Landeskog staying keeps him captain for some time and Nate has been annoyed at times in Colorado so would a kings ransom for him sway Colorado? I’d happily pay more for MacKinnon than Eichel and Gaudreau/MacKinnon was absolute magic a few years ago for the NA all star team.

Monahan + Hanifin + Valimaki + Zary + 1st in 22 and 23 both unprotected

For MacKinnon + Girard + 2nd

Gaudreau - MacKinnon - Tkachuk
Mangiapane - Lindholm - Coleman
Dube - Backlund - Lewis
Lucic - Richardson - Pitlick
Duehr, Ritchie

Girard - Andersson
Kylington - Tanev
Zadorov - Gudbranson
Stone, Mackey

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Dude the Avs are not trading MacKinnon LOL. We had once chance at a young elite #1C and his name was Eichel, and we royally ####ed that up.
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surely the McKinnon post was supposed to be green text?

Flames offered 3 firsts for him before he played a game and were turned down

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I hope the Sharks fall off the map and we can pitch them an offer for Kevin LeBanc
Good news - they look like they're on their way.
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Old 11-15-2021, 07:22 AM   #5634
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surely the McKinnon post was supposed to be green text?

Flames offered 3 firsts for him before he played a game and were turned down
I thought they offered all of their picks that year. Monahan for McKinnon would have turned out well though.
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Monahan-mangiapane looks like it could have some stirrings.

Would really like to get these guys a cerebral rhs to play with them.

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Connor brown showed chemistry with mangi and might not be expensive. Forsberg more expensive but better. Any others that might be out there?
Rakell would fit in there like a glove.
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Avs are just not trading MacKinnon.
You could keep increasing value, but there's just certain players that don't get moved during their prime.

McDavid, MacKinnon, Barkov, etc.
McDavid will be.
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Old 11-15-2021, 08:24 AM   #5637
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I thought they offered all of their picks that year. Monahan for McKinnon would have turned out well though.
I believe that was the Islanders who offered every pick they had. The Flames offered all three of their 1sts that year.
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If the Flames didn't have Mackey on a 2-year deal, I would agree. But in that tweener #6/7 role that Valimaki is in right now, Mackey could easily be in that spot and the Flames wouldn't miss a beat.

I'm sure the Flames are not actively shopping Valimaki, but if there's a team that really likes him and are willing to trade a young forward of similar pedigree, they should consider it.
But you're still going to need a 7D next season and one that can step in and play meaningful minutes in case of injury. That would probably be another cost controlled young D in Mackey. Assuming they don't sign Stone to yet another 1 year deal.

The Flames don't have a deep pool of defensive prospects to just ship them out

Send Valimaki off and what happens if Mackey falters or gets hurt?

Young players with upside on small deals is what the team needs to fill out the roster.
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I believe that was the Islanders who offered every pick they had. The Flames offered all three of their 1sts that year.
I thought the Islanders offered every pick they had to move up from 4 OA to 2 OA. In 2012.
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Monahan-mangiapane looks like it could have some stirrings.

Would really like to get these guys a cerebral rhs to play with them.

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Connor brown showed chemistry with mangi and might not be expensive. Forsberg more expensive but better. Any others that might be out there?
A cerebral RW you say...how about Joe Pavelski

Dallas is struggling and may look to move the pending UFA.

He would look great next to Mangiapane and Monahan IMO
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