01-31-2016, 09:46 PM
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#5621
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First Line Centre
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Well there was the whole Mike Riberio trade. Plus Burke and Feaster both mentioned the Flames acting like a bank for other teams
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01-31-2016, 09:58 PM
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#5622
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I believe in the Pony Power
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That's different from retaining salary
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01-31-2016, 10:12 PM
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#5623
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
That's different from retaining salary
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Not really. Both retaining salary and trading for Ribeiro only to buy him out would have been the owners paying a guy to not play for them. The buyout would have costed a lot more though.
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01-31-2016, 10:14 PM
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#5624
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codynw
Not really. Both retaining salary and trading for Ribeiro only to buy him out would have been the owners paying a guy to not play for them. The buyout would have costed a lot more though.
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Not sure why you're assuming they would have bought him out. I always thought they would have kept Ribeiro or Ward and played them during the rebuild. They would have used current cap space to acquire a 1st rounder and a solid but overpaid player
Last edited by Flames Draft Watcher; 01-31-2016 at 10:17 PM.
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01-31-2016, 10:16 PM
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#5625
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Not sure why you're assuming they would have bought him out. I always thought they would have kept Ribeiro and/or Ward and played them during the rebuild.
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I remember hearing that Ribeiro was going to be bought out if the trade went through.
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01-31-2016, 10:42 PM
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#5626
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Franchise Player
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I don't doubt the Flames would retain some salary for Wideman if it meant you could get a decent return. It's the decent return part I question. I believe they will retain some salary when they trade him but it will be next years deadline. That's when his value will be highest.
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01-31-2016, 11:17 PM
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#5627
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First Line Centre
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I think the Kotalik situation was in the infancy of the salary cap. At the time there wasn't the same value because so many teams were carrying cap space. The fact that salary retention was introduced to the CBA suggests that owners are seeing the value of cap space in building their franchises. I can't see how Flames owners are still naive to this.
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02-01-2016, 12:38 AM
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#5628
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Not sure why you're assuming they would have bought him out. I always thought they would have kept Ribeiro or Ward and played them during the rebuild. They would have used current cap space to acquire a 1st rounder and a solid but overpaid player
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I have always wondered why everyone assumed we would buy him out, it has never made sense to me. You don't acquire a good but overpaid player just to buy them out and if he was being bought out by us, why would he bother nixing the deal? Makes no sense.
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Originally Posted by codynw
I remember hearing that Ribeiro was going to be bought out if the trade went through.
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I think people assumed that at the time thinking we could use a compliance buyout on him but he wouldn't have been eligible for one. If the plan was to just buy him out I don't think Ribeiro would have invoked his NTC
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02-01-2016, 12:46 AM
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#5629
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Franchise Player
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I remember Feaster talking about why they didn't retain money on Bouwmeester when they traded him in an effort to drive up the price. I believe his response was centered around the following: "The other teams weren't adding much with retention, and we feel there are more possibilities with selling the cap space to teams who need it in the off-season." Something along those lines. I can't for the life of me remember where it came from.
Now, they never did retain salary in a trade (and I agree that Hagman didn't count, though they did indeed bring him back up through re-entry waivers so he would get claimed, IIRC), It sounds like they have been willing to do it, but perhaps they just haven't had enough reason to do so? I do think that most teams would be more willing to send a bad contract the other way anyways.
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02-01-2016, 06:35 PM
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#5630
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Powerplay Quarterback
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02-02-2016, 01:43 AM
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#5631
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Houston, TX
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Originally Posted by t0rrent98
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Lol
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02-02-2016, 06:58 AM
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#5632
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Franchise Player
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I'd sign a petition to remove Damien Cox and Glen Healy from HNIC. Milbury is not on Canadian broadcasts anymore. And when he was, Healy was still worse.
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02-02-2016, 07:13 AM
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#5633
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by t0rrent98
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I'm not a Milbury fan but as has been said Cox and Healy are both equally as unlikeable. My theory is that the networks like to have a villain in their studio as I simply don't know how else to explain such unlikeable men getting such prominent gigs. When I see Cox in an intermission segment I either turn over or leave the room. I feel he's not overly knowledgeable about hockey and simply don't want to hear his opinion on anything.
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02-02-2016, 09:34 AM
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#5634
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Kevin Paul Dupont @GlobeKPD
Once his suspension is cleared up , I could see Wideman being dealt back to Bruins. Susp length critical. Interesting 3-4 weeks ahead.
Obviously just Dupont's opinion and not really a rumor, but sure would be nice.
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02-02-2016, 09:38 AM
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#5635
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
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Wideman at 50% for a 2nd would be nice
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02-02-2016, 09:39 AM
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#5636
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#1 Goaltender
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Has a change.org petition ever had any success?
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02-02-2016, 09:54 AM
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#5637
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 Posted the 6 millionth post!
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For gods sake, Wideman has an NMC. I can't believe how much this is forgotten among media heads.
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02-02-2016, 09:56 AM
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#5638
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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that he can waive at any time. Boston doesn't seem like a bad team right now and he has a history there. It could be a fit...
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02-02-2016, 09:58 AM
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#5639
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Franchise Player
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But the fans there really, really hate him. He was booed out of town.
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02-02-2016, 09:59 AM
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#5640
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Franchise Player
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Wideman has an NMC. I can't believe how much this is forgotten among media heads.
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Is Calgary as a team really the best to build his impending FA value next year?
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