2024 Off-season trade rumours and speculation thread

[bdubbs]

Lol, quoting Spector as if he's some reliable source of news. Doubly funny because it is being used as confirmation bias.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I think that is more wishful thinking than anything else from an Oiler’s fanboy. That’d be the best outcome for Edmonton. Not saying Dissentower is an Oiler’s fan but I’d be shocked if Draisaitl signs a 4 year deal especially with how much mileage he has.

Lol, yes, I have been on here for decades as an Oilers fan in disguise. I just report what I hear. Apparently from the article Spector heard it from Seravelli. I don't know why Draisaitl would want 4 years, I don't know why he would even consider staying in Edmonton.

[The Yen Man]

The only reason to entice him to stay in Edmonton is if Oilers give him max term at a high dollar rate, ensuring he'll be making $13+ million in his twilight years.

There's literally no advantage to Draisaitl signing a short term deal with the Oilers.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Lol, yes, I have been on here for decades as an Oilers fan in disguise. I just report what I hear. Apparently from the article Spector heard it from Seravelli. I don't know why Draisaitl would want 4 years, I don't know why he would even consider staying in Edmonton.

Frank disagreed. He said drais camp doesn’t want the Matthew’s deal. Wants long term. Spector said he heard differently. And he’s never been connected.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Frank disagreed. He said drais camp doesn’t want the Matthew’s deal. Wants long term. Spector said he heard differently. And he’s never been connected.

Frank is an Oiler fanboy

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Frank disagreed. He said drais camp doesn’t want the Matthew’s deal. Wants long term. Spector said he heard separately. And he’s never been connected.

Ok, it's just a rumour though, I heard it so I posted it. Maybe he wants long term. Maybe he wants short term. Maybe he wants McDavid's baby. It's just something to talk about. I would imagine Spector is probably better connected to the Oilers than FS. Just my guess.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Kadri would get a 5-year deal if he was a UFA this summer, at North of $7M.

Easily

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Frank is an Oiler fanboy

Everyone is. I know.

[The Yen Man]

Why would Draisaitl want Matthew's deal? Matthews still has time for one more massive payday after his current contract ends. Draisaitl will be 34 by the time his 4 year extension ends. That's a lot of money and term he's leaving on the table.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Frank disagreed. He said drais camp doesn’t want the Matthew’s deal. Wants long term. Spector said he heard differently. And he’s never been connected.

It really doesn't make sense for a big man to bet on himself deep into his 30's especially one that's played as many minutes as Draisaitl. McDavid with those wheels should have no issues maintaining his level deep into his 30's but Draisaitl this season for the most part looked a step slower. I'm sure he will have use as a powerplay specialist when he's less effective 5 on 5 but teams don't break the bank for that.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by bdubbs

Lol, quoting Spector as if he's some reliable source of news. Doubly funny because it is being used as confirmation bias.

The guys is sharing something he's heard.

Could be BS.
Could be 100% accurate.

You don't want to hear these things?

The level of pissy about rumour stuff on this site just makes me shake my head.

[The Yen Man]

If that's the deal Daisaitl is shooting for, he really should fire his agent. That's probably the worst term he could sign given where he's at in age. It'd make more sense for him to sign either a 2 year deal, or an 8 year deal. 4 year deal only really benefits the Oilers. How does it benefit Draisaitl?

[Weitz]

Why do you guys keep posting like he wants a 4 year deal?

Spector suggested 4 year deal, he’s never been connect.

Frank suggested he doesn’t want a short term, he wants long term. Has been connected.

It makes no sense to sign a short term deal. I am almost certain he signs a 8 (or 7) year deal.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Lol, yes, I have been on here for decades as an Oilers fan in disguise. I just report what I hear. Apparently from the article Spector heard it from Seravelli. I don't know why Draisaitl would want 4 years, I don't know why he would even consider staying in Edmonton.

lol yeah, that’s why I called it out. Spector is the Oiler’s fan boy. You are hardcore enough to believe the Flames can make playoffs somehow next year. I’m mostly pushing back against this one because it’d be the best thing for the Grease lol

[The Yen Man]

I'm not posting that Spector is correct, just re-affirming what "he's heard" makes no sense. Honestly, it sounds more like an Oiler fanboy (Spector) wishing that as a the best case scenario.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

Why would Draisaitl want Matthew's deal? Matthews still has time for one more massive payday after his current contract ends. Draisaitl will be 34 by the time his 4 year extension ends. That's a lot of money and term he's leaving on the table.

It makes no sense that he would want a 4 year deal. Trying to make up the difference left on the table negotiating as a 34 year is a massive financial risk. And it's not like the 4 year deal with a higher AAV helps the team either. There is no logic to this rumour.

Add to that the timing. Even with the best of intent, negotiations can quickly turn sour or add stress if there are disagreements. The Oilers would have to put up a banner for "Dumbest GM of All Time" if they really put dollar amounts in front of him right now and couldn't wait another week at most. One week isn't going to make or break anything.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Bingo

The guys is sharing something he's heard.

Could be BS.
Could be 100% accurate.

You don't want to hear these things?

The level of pissy about rumour stuff on this site just makes me shake my head.

And in the trade speculation and rumor thread no less.

The utter audacity

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

I don't see too many cap strapped teams. TBL, and VGK don't have any cap space, but large chunks of their rosters have NTC/NMCs.

PHI could be an option, but I don't see them trading Couturier, they also have some LTIR, and might be rebuilding. They might choose to dump R. Johansen, whom they recently acquired.

MIN, and NYI don't have much cap space but I'm not sure who would they even trade.

Other than that Orlov from CAR, Trouba(M-NTC) from NYR, and Schmidt(M-NTC) from WPG might be targeted.

Buffalo is also interested to move/buy out Skinner, but that seems like too much of a gamble, because he isn't much of a puck carrier, or fast.

This offseason seems primed for multiple top 4 D-men to get overpaid. It almost seems we'd be better off shopping for bargain bin UFAs that we can flip after the free agency frenzy settles.

I hope they consider offer sheets. Unfortunately I do not think there is anyway to get their 3rd back from Montreal but I would consider the following deals (they can only do one)

Mercer - 2 years, 4.5 million a year - cost 2025 2nd round pick
Lundell - 2 years 4.5 million a year - cost 2025 2nd round pick
Pinto - 2 years 4.5 million a year - cost 2025 2nd round pick

If the Flames were able to pick up any of those players for the cost of a pick between 33-42 that would be good value. Not sure Mercer is actually a center but it would address an organizational need for cheap. Then see if you can take on a bad contract to recoup your lost 2nd or maybe a 1st (like take on Orlov for the Carolina first or 2nd).

Out - Calgary 2nd
In - Lundell, Orlov and Carolina 2nd.

That would be a pretty good offseason.

[MacDaddy77]

I have a steak dinner bet at Chairmans that Mcdavid ends up in Toronto. With Tavaras expiring next year and other moves they'll make I think he goes to be the face of the leafs.

or he goes to Florida where no-one cares. either or

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by MacDaddy77

I have a steak dinner bet at Chairmans that Mcdavid ends up in Toronto. With Tavaras expiring next year and other moves they'll make I think he goes to be the face of the leafs.

or he goes to Florida where no-one cares. either or

I think Taveres is a reason he won’t go there. Tavares is a guy who is going to retire with zero legacy. I feel like McDavid cares about that. Doesn’t mean he signs with Edmonton but like your last line there somewhere in the USA.