01-07-2019, 08:58 AM
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#5581
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Franchise Player
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The only head scratcher to me was Drew D's eblow on McFragile in the face...
This the same thing Tkachuk did to him which forced him to flop to the ice at an equivalent speed to that of a headshot victim from the most elite snipers, yet seemingly went unnoticed, uncalled and Doughty though nothing of it this time around.
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01-07-2019, 09:00 AM
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#5582
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Voted for Kodos
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The short clip on twitter of the hit looks sped up to me. Watching the whole highlight on Sportsnet website, it doesn’t look quite so violent.
Also, you see why it wasn’t called. It maybe was 2 min for boarding (probably not though), but it also 2 min for interference on McDavid (probably more likely a penalty than the boarding).
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01-07-2019, 09:16 AM
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#5583
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Franchise Player
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So if I have it right, the last ten games for the Greasers are 2-8. And they are more concerned about McIcan'thandleabodycheck. Not a single comment about the terrible team play. Ha. Ha. Stay the course, Oilers. Stay the course.
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01-07-2019, 09:43 AM
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#5586
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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I know that I am a total homer.
Although it was a dangerous hit. It is the the responsibility of players to protect themselves. Moving full speed into a corner in dangerous for the reason that a little bump will send you flying face first into the boards. I am glad no one got hurt, but at worst that is 2 minutes for boarding. Hits like that happen every time players are going into the boards. the difference is most of the time players put the breaks on because they know contact is coming.
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01-07-2019, 09:49 AM
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#5587
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
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I have to say that cross-check in the back has to be called....a major...every single time.
Never mind heads getting clipped with the odd elbow or giant open ice hits and worrying about concussions....that x-check in the back into the boards could literally kill someone, and more easily paralyze them. Players just have to stop with it.
The elbow from Doughty was a dandy though, i have to say. Shouuld have been a minor if it was seen but my guess is the officials didn't catch it. The Lindholm one though the guy is clearly staring right at it and doesn't deem it worthy of an infraction. He is dead wrong in that case.
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01-07-2019, 09:50 AM
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#5588
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iggy City
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“Kris Russell truly was the glue holding this team together.”
This is why you never feel sorry for their abysmal performance and how it never gets old.
The minute anyone even considers the thought...
It’s reinforced by fantasy sourced arrogance after 1 win. One !!
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01-07-2019, 09:50 AM
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#5589
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
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Hahahaha
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Terry Jones @byterryjones: “Never been a guy to call out the refs. Over the years, I spent a lot of evenings drinking with them. But how much of this evidence do you have to see to ask what the deal is when it comes to Connor McDavid? Elbow in the chops last night in L.A, too.”
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01-07-2019, 09:53 AM
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#5590
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Uncle Chester
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I like how Staples quotes 11 different "media" members - everyone of them connected to Edmonton. We know Staples is a fanboy but geez, can't he pretend to show some objectivity?
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01-07-2019, 10:00 AM
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#5591
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Franchise Player
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I guess there is no mention of McDavid feeding Lindholm an elbow to the face before he got pasted into the boards?
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Originally Posted by calgaryblood
Looks like you'll need one long before I will. May I suggest deflection king?
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01-07-2019, 10:01 AM
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#5592
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard
Plus there is the ever present conspiracy theory that the NHL and the referees are against the Flames because of Denis Wideman.
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The Wideman effect was statistically measurable. We went overnight from the least penalized team to the most.
By now the effect had worn off, but it does make a good joke to bring up once in a while.
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01-07-2019, 10:03 AM
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#5593
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
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Boy there's a lot of gems in this article. My favorite;
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It’s mainstream voices like Jones and Spector.
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Since when did Kool-Aid swilling homers count as mainstream media?
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01-07-2019, 10:04 AM
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#5594
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sempuki
The Wideman effect was statistically measurable. We went overnight from the least penalized team to the most.
By now the effect had worn off, but it does make a good joke to bring up once in a while.
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There is little doubt for a time there was a Wideman effect. As you say it coincided with the Flames going from least penalized to most penalized.
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01-07-2019, 10:05 AM
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#5595
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by SportsJunky
I like how Staples quotes 11 different "media" members - everyone of them connected to Edmonton. We know Staples is a fanboy but geez, can't he pretend to show some objectivity?
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Every time he's been called out for bias, he responds by saying he's a fan, not a journalist.
He's basically no different than the whiniest person on any team forum, aside from the fact that the Edmonton Journal pays him for it.
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01-07-2019, 10:10 AM
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#5596
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
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I view that a little differently. I thought McDoofus initiated the contact going in, and lead with an elbow (you can see the helmet pop on the Ducks player). The Ducks player returned with a crosscheck and sent McDip#### into the boards. If they call one, call them both. Since they let McWonderful get away with the elbow, the follow up was fair play. Yes, it was dangerous, but so was engaging with an elbow going after the puck. Guys that play dirty reap what they sow.
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01-07-2019, 10:11 AM
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#5597
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Fort McMurray, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
I have to say that cross-check in the back has to be called....a major...every single time.
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I think a penalty should have been called, but not a major. Those are the types of plays that the NHL wants gone, and for good reason, but the "victim" player has to take some responsibility in my opinion. He lost a battle and turned himself into a dangerous position.
As someone else mentioned, McDavid also got his arm up a bit in Lindholm's face as well; likely not enough for a penalty though. A lost battle and an extra shove that shouldn't have happened, but only did happen because McDavid turned into it and made it the only real play available, other than to give up possession of the puck.
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01-07-2019, 10:19 AM
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#5598
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Every time he's been called out for bias, he responds by saying he's a fan, not a journalist.
He's basically no different than the whiniest person on any team forum, aside from the fact that the Edmonton Journal Oilers pays him for it.
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Corrected. I just don't see the outrage here as there are so many more dirtier and dangerous plays that happen on a nightly basis that don't result in suspensions or major penalties. You either have the rules apply to everyone or you don't. The league can't have special McDavid rules.
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01-07-2019, 10:26 AM
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#5599
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Rocky Mt House
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard
From everything I have heard it is mostly the fans complaining that there isn't any pushback when a team does go after their biggest star. Legal bodychecks or not, there is most often a ramification for hitting the biggest star of a team. I don't think that the vast majority of fans expect a penalty call because McDavid was hit, just more of a response from the team.
As for if McDavid is hooked and held quite a bit - sure he is a really fast player and does endure the same treatment that Gaudreau and Pettersson get. Flames and Canucks fans bitch about how they are being slashed, hooked, and tripped... that is just what happens to star players in the game now.
okay? I don't disagree - but you must realize that the Flames are doing the exact same thing - heck even Johnny Gaudreau (who is an amazing player) has been accused of embellishment and diving. Plus there is the ever present conspiracy theory that the NHL and the referees are against the Flames because of Denis Wideman.
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? Ever present? That's not been a serious thing since the player left the team. Possibly referenced in jest only. You're grasping at straws
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01-07-2019, 10:28 AM
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#5600
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Yrebmi
? Ever present? That's not been a serious thing since the player left the team. Possibly referenced in jest only. You're grasping at straws
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You missed the last GT/PGT.
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