*grumble* Some ass is going around the neighborhood putting home printer printed notes in everyones mailbox suggesting outright the squalene is going to give you Gulf War Syndrome. It was in there when I got home. Had I been home I would have held him for trespassing.
When some kid dies because their parents were afraid to get the vaccine because of these anti-government scare-mongers, I think they need to be charged with murder. I usually have no problem with conspiracy theorists - 9/11 was an inside job, the government is implanting us with tracking devices, the reason we switched to digital television is because the government put microchips in all the set top boxes to listen to our conversations. They are funny and make me laugh. BUT THIS ONE IS GOING TO COST LIVES. People are going to DIE because of this fear mongering. And it pisses me off.
Its unfortunate nature hasnt taken care of him/her yet. Maybe H1N1 is natures way of saying to this guy "times up"
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*grumble* Some ass is going around the neighborhood putting home printer printed notes in everyones mailbox suggesting outright the squalene is going to give you Gulf War Syndrome. It was in there when I got home. Had I been home I would have held him for trespassing.
When some kid dies because their parents were afraid to get the vaccine because of these anti-government scare-mongers, I think they need to be charged with murder. I usually have no problem with conspiracy theorists - 9/11 was an inside job, the government is implanting us with tracking devices, the reason we switched to digital television is because the government put microchips in all the set top boxes to listen to our conversations. They are funny and make me laugh. BUT THIS ONE IS GOING TO COST LIVES. People are going to DIE because of this fear mongering. And it pisses me off.
Well, anyone who makes a personal health decision based on a printed note some random person put in their mailbox, probably shouldn't be making little miniature versions of themselves.
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Thanks to all those who aren't getting a flu shot. You shortened my wait time by half. Cheers.
Enjoy the flu.
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I got the seasonal shot on Tuesday and the H1N1 shot yesterday. Man did those shots ever kick my ass. In bed early last night with a fever and just felt so tired.
Even this morning not feeling 100% and my right arm is pretty sore.
Glad I got the shots though, don't have to worry about being hit with that later in the winter and stuck in bed for a week or something.
I got the seasonal shot on Tuesday and the H1N1 shot yesterday. Man did those shots ever kick my ass. In bed early last night with a fever and just felt so tired.
Even this morning not feeling 100% and my right arm is pretty sore.
Glad I got the shots though, don't have to worry about being hit with that later in the winter and stuck in bed for a week or something.
You are right you are now free and clear. No way to catch it anymore you are completely immune.
You are right you are now free and clear. No way to catch it anymore you are completely immune.
I am fully aware that I am not 100% immune. I just have a much smaller chance of catching it than the people who didn't get the shot. Thanks for your input though. You're so smart and cool.
I am fully aware that I am not 100% immune. I just have a much smaller chance of catching it than the people who didn't get the shot. Thanks for your input though. You're so smart and cool.
I'm sorry, I'm not trying to attack you directly its just that in the past few days I've heard so many people think that they can just get the shot and forget all their worries and those that don't are spreading the plague.
Everyday in the paper all we hear about is H1N1 and how bad it is, estimated death tolls (up to 400 in Alberta thats it?) and after anyone dies we need to get on the radio and news and make sure the people know. Well what I want to know is the death toll from theregular flu this year and everytime someone dies from it, then we can see how overblown this whole situation is. Spread fear and the people will do as you want them to just like 9/11.
I'm not going to tell anyone not to get the shot or even wish something bad against them for getting it, but it seems like that is what the media wants to happen the other way around. Make sure to single out the people that didn't get the shot and let them know that they have doomed the world and wish them a terrible death.
For sure, I get sick WAY more often now that I have a kid.. he gathers all the new and popular germs from school and brings them home for us. Thanks son, now stop squirming and take your daily disinfectant bath.
I walked past the Oval line up last night and I couldn't believe how busy it was. The line went from the upstairs of the Oval all the way to the Kinesiology Students chapter across from the gym. The line was also almost as wide as the huge hallway there.
I walked past the Oval line up last night and I couldn't believe how busy it was. The line went from the upstairs of the Oval all the way to the Kinesiology Students chapter across from the gym. The line was also almost as wide as the huge hallway there.
Sounds like there are a lot of "high-risk" people answering the innitial role call for the immunization. I bet there are no people there who shouldn't be... that would be socially irresponsible.
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Sounds like there are a lot of "high-risk" people answering the innitial role call for the immunization. I bet there are no people there who shouldn't be... that would socially irresponsible.
I did the responsible thing and walked past the line and had a few beers.
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Has this been posted yet, or is it a Fata? It's good for a laugh. Apparently she used to be the health minister of Finland or something like that.
If you Google this chick, there are other videos of her, in her own home, talking about how the government is using microwaves to control peoples minds. Not surprisingly, her house looks like the typical senile old lady's home.
I'm sorry, I'm not try to attack you directly its just that in the past few days I've heard so many people think that they can just get the shot and forget all their worries and those that don't are spreading the plague.
Everyday in the paper all we hear about is H1N1 and how bad it is, estimated death tolls (up to 400 in Alberta thats it?) and after anyone dies we need to get on the radio and news and make sure the people know. Well what I want to know is the death toll from theregular flu this year and everytime someone dies from it, then we can see how overblown this whole situation is. Spread fear and the people will do as you want them to just like 9/11.
I'm not going to tell anyone not to get the shot or even wish something bad against them for getting it, but it seems like that is what the media wants to happen the other way around. Make sure to single out the people that didn't get the shot and let them know that they have doomed the world and wish them a terrible death.
Like you I believe that it is up to the individual to get the flu-shot or not. Having said that I believe it is foolish not to.
The public I am certain will do the same as you and compare total number of deaths by H1N1 vs the seasonal flu. This does not give the entire picture however, and certainly does not explain the concern of organizations like the CDC, Health Canada, and the WHO.
There are two important aspects that make a certain virus a cause for concern. a) the viruses ability to transmit from person to person and b) its virulence. If both are met by a certain virus this will be reflected in illness and mortality rates. However, even if only one is met there is a reason to be concerned. With the current H1N1 virus mortality rates may be low but what is alarming is its ability to rapidly transmit (alarming maybe too strong of a word but at any rate from what I have read it is higher than seasonal viruses). Why the concern? What happens if this virus mutates and becomes more virulent? Of course it may not but should we take that risk.
Why vaccinate? A vaccine does not provide an individual with a magic force field. An individual may still become infected with the H1N1, however, with an appropriate vaccine illness can be reduced. Because of the vaccine the immune system can respond much quicker reducing the severity of the illness. Obviously what we do not want to happen is to allow the virus to mutate within a human host to something more virulent. Ensuring that your body can rapidly recover from illness can reduce this from happening.
Sorry for being Captain obvious but sometimes like in hockey we look at the wrong statistics.
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Why vaccinate? A vaccine does not provide an individual with a magic force field. An individual may still become infected with the H1N1, however, with an appropriate vaccine illness can be reduced. Because of the vaccine the immune system can respond much quicker reducing the severity of the illness. Obviously what we do not want to happen is to allow the virus to mutate within a human host to something more virulent. Ensuring that your body can rapidly recover from illness can reduce this from happening.
Question for you specifically given your location.
Do you plan to go out and get the vaccine now without the adjuvant for ~60% coverage?
Or do you plan and wait until the US current ongoing clinical trials of the vaccine with the adjuvant have been completed, hoping that it is approved and then get that one for a ~90% coverage?
