NORAD is atleast supposed to send up fighters to check out the situation, not to automatically shoot the planes down.
I dont want to search for the link, but I have a quote for you. It was from an interview with Jesse Ventura that I posted previously. It was a private jet, not a commercial flight.
Here it is.
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FORMER MINNESOTA GOVERNOR JESSE VENTURA: Well, you know... At first, again, I wanted to believe 9/11, you know. But the problem I have with 9/11 is just a real simple one. I'm trying to figure out -- and of course they're now attempting to answer it somewhat -- how we could have failed so miserably in not having air defense.
Because if you look back particulalrly -- I don't know if you're familiar -- remember Payne Stewart, the golfer?
LANGLEY: Yeah, that's been brought up a few times on this program...
GOV. VENTURA: He was flying in a private jet. And when they had that mechanical malfunction that apparently killed everyone on board, and the jet was up there flying on automatic pilot; well it only took them a matter of minutes to scramble a fighter jet and have it up there on the wing. And had Mr. Stewart's plane, if it looked like it was going to go down and hit a metropolitan area, of course they would blow it out of the air. But when they saw it was just going to land in a field in Nebraska [sic. - actually South Dakota], why they just let it go down and crash on its own.
And the problem I have with 9/11 is that. Where the heck was our defense? Who was sleeping at the wheel? While all of these planes... I mean, I've been to air traffic control when I was Governor, and you've got a dozen people there looking at these dials, watching every plane in their sector. They know where it's going and they know what direction it's supposed to be going
Now, how is it that these planes were able to be hijacked at half hour intervals, turned directly opposite the way they're supposed to be going and no bells went off, no emergency sirens went off, no fighter jets were scrambled? Just what the hell happened in that area of time?! And that's the part that troubles me about 9/11.
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I agree with Jesse this was an indictment of a badly flawed command and control system faced with a chaotic and unfamiliar situation.
Not proof of some conspiracy laid in by the U.S. government.
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How is Jesse Ventura a more credible source than the 9/11 Commission? This is hilarious.
Well for one thing Jesse Ventura did not work directly for George W Bush, as the 9/11 commission guys did, but he was also Gov. of Minnesota and an ex-marine.
You don't seem to confront any counter-arguments, just glass over them and repeat your shtick a few pages later. That's trolling in my books.
Get a back-and-forth going with someone that has looked into this stuff that doesn't end after two posts with you saying "well its interesting and we should all be considering..."
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Well for one thing Jesse Ventura did not work directly for George W Bush, as the 9/11 commission guys did, but he was also Gov. of Minnesota and an ex-marine.
So? George Bush was POTUS and in the National Guard... I don't understand how either of those qualifications make someone more credible than a bi-partisan government commission.
So? George Bush was POTUS and in the National Guard... I don't understand how either of those qualifications make someone more credible than an impartial government commission.
Impartial Government Commission eh? That must be some trick, I've never seen one of those. So...who pays them?
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Well for one thing Jesse Ventura did not work directly for George W Bush, as the 9/11 commission guys did, but he was also Gov. of Minnesota and an ex-marine.
None of which qualifies him to be an authority on the matter. He pointed out flaws in the system that should have been corrected and if they were corrected, might have been able to react quicker when put in a chaotic situation.
Hardly supporting a massive conspiracy theory that would have made the JFK assassination look like a high school secret.
Well for one thing Jesse Ventura did not work directly for George W Bush, as the 9/11 commission guys did, but he was also Gov. of Minnesota and an ex-marine.
and a professional entertainer.
Get some info from air traffic controllers that were there if you're going to float this theory.
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Ex-marine doesn't mean he's knows about air defense policy, or Norad structure, he knows as much about it as Joe Average. Plus he wasn't a damn Marine he was a Navy Seal.
Plus what the hell does the Gov of Minnesota and his position have to do with a national terrorist crisis or foreign or military policy? Nothing, I'll take him seriously when he talks about the economic ramifications of a cheese shortage.
Just because the guy is a big mouth doesn't mean he knows anything.
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As much as I dont really believe the stuff that mikey is talking about, I DO find the jesse ventura quote/interview kind of intersesting... does anyone else not? I haven't taken the time to research anything, so i'm not making a stance, its just, interesting.... most people have to admit that i would imagine.
EDIT: Just read someone saying that norad did screw up, that makes more sense to me than a consipiracy. Again Occams Razor (sp????)
So? George Bush was POTUS and in the National Guard... I don't understand how either of those qualifications make someone more credible than an impartial government commission.
The story about Pane Stewarts' plane is FACT, and Jesse is discussing it with the interviewer.............he is not throwing anything out here, just questioning the events that took place.
As much as I dont really believe the stuff that mikey is talking about, I DO find the jesse ventura quote/interview kind of intersesting... does anyone else not? I haven't taken the time to research anything, so i'm not making a stance, its just, interesting.... most people have to admit that i would imagine.
The interview points to flaws in a system that involves both civilian and military controls and how badly that system mishandled that situation. Not about any conspiracy.
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The story about Pane Stewarts' plane is FACT, and Jesse is discussing it with the interviewer.............he is not throwing anything out here, just questioning the events that took place.
The interview points to flaws in a system that involves both civilian and military controls and how badly that system mishandled that situation. Not about any conspiracy.
Mikey the problem is you are using lack of evidence/explantion to fuel your belief of a conspiracy theory. There are people who swear on their lives they communicate telepathicly with Dolphins, so obviously humans are flawed and obviously relying on absense of evidence or anectdotal 'evidence' by people is not something you should base your theories on.
The burden is for you to prove your astonishing claims, not link to people that share with you this line of thinking.
Ex-marine doesn't mean he's knows about air defense policy, or Norad structure, he knows as much about it as Joe Average. Plus he wasn't a damn Marine he was a Navy Seal.
Plus what the hell does the Gov of Minnesota and his position have to do with a national terrorist crisis or foreign or military policy? Nothing, I'll take him seriously when he talks about the economic ramifications of a cheese shortage.
Just because the guy is a big mouth doesn't mean he knows anything.
He is simply a respected public figure raising some questions about 9/11. He was talking about a past NORAD response to a private jet that was in distress. What is the big deal?
"Just because the guy is a big mouth doesn't mean he knows anything"
Well..............you have a big mouth. Does that mean you don't know anything?
