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Old 12-14-2009, 02:11 AM   #541
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^^kind of agree.
felt like it was more shock value over anything else
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is there any doubt that this is the best dramatic show on TV? i was prepared for a big twist, but not that. and yet as soon as i saw Rita's body, the first thought that went through my head was "Dexter's free". they've pretty much blown the doors wide open for what they can do in season 5 and onward, but if i have to guess at just one thing is that sooner or later Dexter will be teaching his son the code

wow i cannot wait for this show to return
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My ipod is on shuffle and just played Lovely Rita by the Beatles. I almost shed a tear. I'm going to miss her.


I think they upped the ante too fast. I don't think she should have died for another season or two. Just seems like too much too soon.
IMO it was just right. they had explored the Rita stuff as much as they could, and with Dexter becoming more and more normal as the series went on it was inevitable that something had to happen to crack his happy family life. the writers have just thrown this show back into the darkness that we haven't seen since season 1, and i couldn't be happier to see it so
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Old 12-14-2009, 02:34 AM   #544
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After all these years of seeing this thread and having images of Dexter's lab in my head, I clicked it on.

So this Dexter show...it's about a serial killer who disguises himself in ordinary life? I might like this. American Psycho is one of my favorite movies.
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You aren't the only one, I thought this was about Dexter's lab for years. But, I got into the seres, blared through 3 seasons in a month this summer and this season, season 4... damn what a good show.
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I think they upped the ante too fast. I don't think she should have died for another season or two. Just seems like too much too soon.
I don't think the show will last more than another season or two. Six seems like a likely number judging from similar series on Show, HBO, etc...

I haven't been that on-edge during a season finale/episode since the Sopranos series finale... from the moment Dexter killed Trinity (and when Tony walked into the diner), every new screen shot I expected a massive twist. Except Dexter blew my mind and the Sopranos made me blow a gasket.

I really like that the writers took this angle. It's almost like hitting the reset button on all the humanity that Dexter has found and built up in his life. Although I will be really sad when the show ends, I would also love to see Dexter break the code next year and kill with vengeance. Ultimately it would lead to him being caught and the writers could explore Dexter before the show (when he went through med-school, when he started killing frequently, what his total numbers are...) during interrogation.

Awesome stuff. Now my watch is counting down to September (I hope Dexter doesnt take an extended hiatus like the Sopranos did either... I can't wait!)

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but if i have to guess at just one thing is that sooner or later Dexter will be teaching his son the code
I suggested this as the possible season finale twist (well, I suggested Cody or Astor), but it was poo-pooed as "too taboo." I think it would be awesome. To see Dexter struggle with his knowledge that he had a large role in creating Harrison's dark passenger and contrasting the way Harry approached raising Dexter to how Dexter was going to raise Harrison...

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Old 12-14-2009, 09:09 AM   #546
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They needed a big change and hopefully the writers can figure out what to do next. Everyone is going to be convinced Dexter is nuts, once his inability to mourn his wife becomes obvious and they find evidence tying him to trinity (and there is a lot of it). I wouldn't mind a re-set of the show, Dex and Deb are the only characters worth a damn left.

breaking bad is still a much better dramatic series
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Old 12-14-2009, 10:13 AM   #547
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There is so much stuff tying Dexter to Trinity. It will be interesting to see if next season starts right after the bathtub scene with Dex figuring out an alibi and calling the cops, or if they skip ahead and don't deal with the Trinity loose ends.

Sunday nights just won't be the same. No Curb, no Dexter, no Bored to Death, no True Blood...
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so what was everyone's first thought when they heard Rita's phone ring in the house? my initial assumption was that she was over at the neighbor's house gettin slutty, but then when i saw the camera pan to the baby in a pool of blood i knew exactly what happened

god what an incredible way to end a season, most TV shows don't even have a series finale that can match up with that

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Old 12-14-2009, 12:15 PM   #549
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I re watched the end of the west coast airing last night and having seen it and I suggest if you get a chance to see the last scene with Dexter and Trinity again you should

Lithgow looks even more amazing when he gives a little wink when Dexter talks about his family, and the reason Lithgow keeps saying its fate and whats done is done starts to make more sense
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I'm interested in knowing what ties to the Trinity killer Dexter has that can't be passed off?

I know someone said that Batista saw the Trinity Killer with Dexter in the office which is true but they had his photo up after that on the board and he didn't say 'Hey - that guy was in the office talking to Dexter a couple days ago'

Dexter's connection to Trinity's family is nothing because he's Kyle Butler to them.

I'm wondering if Rita's murder will be attributed to suicide as opposed to a Trinity killing.

Also - I knew someone in his family would be killed, but I thought that Trinity would try to kill them all using his cycle:
Cody - buried alive
Ester - in the tub
Rita - falls to her death
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Why the assumption that Dexter will be unable to mourn Rita? I'm not convinced of that.
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Old 12-14-2009, 04:50 PM   #552
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Why the assumption that Dexter will be unable to mourn Rita? I'm not convinced of that.
Yeah, his relationship with Rita was for show to begin with, but as the series has progressed it's pretty clear he's come to love her.
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Yep, even when he was leaving the jail he noted he feels no regret killing, but feels regret disappointing Rita.

He will mourn her, he just wanted to get Harrison out of the blood as he had flashbacks to himself
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I'm wondering if Rita's murder will be attributed to suicide as opposed to a Trinity killing.
pretty much 100% certain they will attribute it to Trinity due to the style of the kill, and the message left on Dexter's phone would prove to not be suicide... as well as having harrison in the blood...

(which debra would realize this happened to dexter, and think Trinity studied into his victims, and learned the past)

As far as Miami metro is concerned, they think Trinity is VERY smart, as he was able to "plant evidence" leading to Bodreau (or however you spell it) to throw them off...when it was in fact Dexter who did so
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Yep, even when he was leaving the jail he noted he feels no regret killing, but feels regret disappointing Rita.

He will mourn her, he just wanted to get Harrison out of the blood as he had flashbacks to himself
Ya I agree with that, it sounds cruel but Harrison was still alive and he checked and knew Rita was dead. At that point he just needed to take care of Harrison.

Kind of off topic from the finale but does anyone else kinda think they are setting up Quinn to be the new Doakes.

This whole rivalry they had this season didn't really lead anywhere so I think that is what they were doing. Giving Dexter someone at the police station who is kind of watching him and dislikes him.
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Kind of off topic from the finale but does anyone else kinda think they are setting up Quinn to be the new Doakes.

This whole rivalry they had this season didn't really lead anywhere so I think that is what they were doing. Giving Dexter someone at the police station who is kind of watching him and dislikes him.
Not the new Doakes because Doakes could see that Dexter had a dark side. Quinn doesn't see that. Quinn is just trying to figure out Dexter so that he doesn't have to worry about Dexter revealing him taking the money.
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Old 12-14-2009, 05:59 PM   #557
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Just curious because I missed most of season 3 but does Dexter, like Sopranos and Six Feet Under, assume that the time off between shows (ie now until it premiers again) is also time that has gone by in the show?

If that is the case won't we miss much of the Rita fallout and subsequent possibilities for people at the station being suspicious of Dexter for why Trinity killed his wife?

Or will it start the first episode of season 5 right where season 4 left off?

Obviously we don't know for sure, I'm just wondering what the precedent is.
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Just curious because I missed most of season 3 but does Dexter, like Sopranos and Six Feet Under, assume that the time off between shows (ie now until it premiers again) is also time that has gone by in the show?

If that is the case won't we miss much of the Rita fallout and subsequent possibilities for people at the station being suspicious of Dexter for why Trinity killed his wife?

Or will it start the first episode of season 5 right where season 4 left off?

Obviously we don't know for sure, I'm just wondering what the precedent is.
up to now they've done the time has passed method, which they pretty much have to with how much the kids age between seasons. my guess is that they'll open up season 5 with some flashback memories from Dexter about the fallout, then open with him trying to cope with being a single dad to 3 kids
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They don't take a full year. Rita was pregnant at their wedding at the end of season 3 and was just born at the start of 4 so you are looking at maybe 6 months.

At the end of 1 Deb is still dealing with dating the Ice Truck Killer so not too much time has elapsed.

Between 2 and 3 i don't think their are any real clues to how much time went by only I think it is quite a bit because no one really mourns Doakes at the start of the season (i think)

So the writers will pick up where they decide it is best to tell the next story from.
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up to now they've done the time has passed method, which they pretty much have to with how much the kids age between seasons. my guess is that they'll open up season 5 with some flashback memories from Dexter about the fallout, then open with him trying to cope with being a single dad to 3 kids
1 kid. We have seen the last (or nearly the last) of Cody and Astor....who are off to live with their 'goofy grandparents'.

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