[Trade] Canucks trade Quinn Hughes to the Wild for 2026 1st, Rossi, Buium, and Ohgren

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Almost all the rest of their vets have full NMCs, and just recently signed long term deals. Waivers are of course possible, given they are pretty crappy. But Vancouver is a nice place to live if you are rich, so a move to Ottawa isn't exactly appealing.

You really need to stop being so fascinated by NMCs. Almost no one is actually prevented from being traded by an NMC. They might veto certain destinations, but if you want to strip the team down, they are a non-factor. And in circumstances where the team they're leaving is literally the worst in the NHL, the number of acceptable alternative destinations - particularly for veteran players who already have their deal in place and just want to play meaningful winning hockey - is inevitably going to be pretty broad.

The bigger hurdle to trading them is going to be ownership, if they go on a bit of a mini run, and he's convinced "hey maybe we still have a shot at a wild card", or "our problems are solved, we're playoff bound next season for sure". That isn't even unlikely.

[Flamesfan05]

Yeah even with NMC, nobody wants to stay if they are not wanted unless they are overpaid, useless or nobody wants them….like you know who…

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

That is amazing considering they are playing against a future hall of famer today! LOL!

Jacob Markstrom
16 15 869:49 8 6 0 1 53 3.66 423 370 .875

He is the HoF in alternate year

Anyway, wish we got a blue chip for Tkachuk instead of an expensive anchor

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

He is the HoF in alternate year

Anyway, wish we got a blue chip for Tkachuk instead of an expensive anchor

The real coup would have been making the trade we made, but turning Huberdeau into a light-bluechip while still keeping Weegar and drafting Potter. (Given our situation at the time.)

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

He is the HoF in alternate year

Anyway, wish we got a blue chip for Tkachuk instead of an expensive anchor

wah wah wah. There was NO ONE in here whining when we replaced a 115 point player with another 115 point player when the trade was made.

Our biggest worry after that trade was if Hubey was willing to sign an extension.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

The real coup would have been making the trade we made, but turning Huberdeau into a light-bluechip while still keeping Weegar and drafting Potter. (Given our situation at the time.)

I heard the other offer was Necas+

The wizard wanted to jump ship so he took the quick route

But karma….

[dino7c]

Canucks better be careful...what if they play too good and cost themselves a top 3 pick? Isnt winning bad?

Oh 2-1 now

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

wah wah wah. There was NO ONE in here whining when we replaced a 115 point player with another 115 point player when the trade was made.

Our biggest worry after that trade was if Hubey was willing to sign an extension.

You know it's possible for a human to like something that happens today, but five years down the road wish something else had happened instead, right?

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

wah wah wah. There was NO ONE in here whining when we replaced a 115 point player with another 115 point player when the trade was made.

Our biggest worry after that trade was if Hubey was willing to sign an extension.

Yeah the wizard was just a dumbass like most people in the hockey forum…

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

wah wah wah. There was NO ONE in here whining when we replaced a 115 point player with another 115 point player when the trade was made.

Our biggest worry after that trade was if Hubey was willing to sign an extension.

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

This, to me, is an insane contract and a mistake that will really hurt the team in a few years. Wish I could say otherwise but my immediate reaction is overwhelmingly negative.

I'd have much preferred they beat the price Seattle gave for Bjorkstrand, even - obviously not the same tier of player but the cap space is just so much more valuable right now than anything else, and of all the high-earning player types, scoring wingers are the least valuable assets based on the transactions we've seen this summer. Even on that front, if you were going to allocate cap space to a scoring winger, the better bet would be to pay Mangiapane whatever it took to lock him up for 8 years than do this.

I wouldn't have given him 10 million per and I wouldn't have given a term over 6 years. Even 6x9.5 is a bit risky from where I sit. This deal is absurd.

Hope I'm wrong... and hope Weegar comes in for a more reasonable figure.

... Yeah, no one.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Yeah the wizard was just a dumbass like most people in the hockey forum…

Not as dumb as a guy on a Flames board who hates the Flames with a flamesfan handle. lol

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

... Yeah, no one.

So where is your post hating the Tkachuk trade? yeah you don't have one...

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by JonDuke

Quinn who???

Quit Hughes???

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Vancouver turning a 26 year old franchise D into a 20 year old future franchise D + three other assets is really friggin good. Quinn Hughes is one of the best defenceman to ever play the game ("one of" as in, in a group along side others - for anyone thinking I'm calling him Bobby Orr). Buium has a chance of being in the same ballpark as Hughes. Will he be a one-to-one equal or better? I'm not ready to make that claim, but there's no doubt this kid is going to be very good.

Edit: I keep calling Rossi an "other asset" but he's very likely a 30-goal scorer in the next 2-3 years lol.

Maybe a franchise Dman. Way more like likely he is a solid top 4 guy.

[Coach]

I thought we all hated the Tkachuk Trade, no? I mean, it was an objectively terrible situation. Maybe some were kinda optimistic about the return, but I'd hardly characterize it as NO ONE whining. Acceptance of the truth, perhaps.

There was a large contingent that wanted to flip Huberdeau immediately and start from scratch. Probably should have considering we had just lost our two best players since Iginla and our closest shot to sustained playoff dances for the next 10 years.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Coach

I thought we all hated the Tkachuk Trade, no? I mean, it was an objectively terrible situation. Maybe some were kinda optimistic about the return, but I'd hardly characterize it as NO ONE whining. Acceptance of the truth, perhaps.

There was a large contingent that wanted to flip Huberdeau immediately and start from scratch. Probably should have considering we had just lost our two best players since Iginla and our closest shot to sustained playoff dances for the next 10 years.

General consensus was it was an amazing trade given the circumstances. I definitely thought they’d have a two year window to keep competing and then they’d have to deal with their UFAs. Boy that didn’t turn out well.

[Coach]

Given the circumstances, sure it looked like decent value if everything was just a bank balance sheet. But the circumstance was losing our best player and the core swagger of the team. After losing our other best player and core skill of the team. Finding hope was a survival mechanism.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Coach

Given the circumstances, sure it looked like decent value if everything was just a bank balance sheet. But the circumstance was losing our best player and the core swagger of the team. After losing our other best player and core skill of the team. Finding hope was a survival mechanism.

Really easy to say in hindsight with how Huberdeau dropped off. At the time more people were concerned with not being able to re-sign them. I would have preferred the younger route given the rest of contract situations but I thought the Flames bought another shot at a deep playoff run.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Really easy to say in hindsight with how Huberdeau dropped off. At the time more people were concerned with not being able to re-sign them. I would have preferred the younger route given the rest of contract situations but I thought the Flames bought another shot at a deep playoff run.

That's fine, some had some hope. I was cautiously optimistic myself. But to say NO ONE was complaining, is just not correct.

[Reign of Fire]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

wah wah wah. There was NO ONE in here whining when we replaced a 115 point player with another 115 point player when the trade was made.

Our biggest worry after that trade was if Hubey was willing to sign an extension.

I thought they should've flipped him for a first, and I am pretty sure some others did too. NO ONE is a stretch!