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View Poll Results: Where will the Flames finish in the overall standings in the 24/25 season?
32 6 1.99%
31 4 1.32%
30 50 16.56%
29 52 17.22%
28 58 19.21%
27 42 13.91%
26 25 8.28%
25 20 6.62%
24 6 1.99%
23rd or better 39 12.91%
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Old 07-10-2024, 04:46 PM   #541
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As for the new poll that's been put up, I have the Flames better than San Jose and Anaheim, but worse than everyone else, including CBJ, Chicago, Montreal and the Sens. I also believe that one of the vets will be moved during the season, but they'll voice their request quietly.
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Old 07-10-2024, 04:54 PM   #542
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Wouldn't be the Flames if they didn't draft in the mid-teens for the first year of a rebuild.
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Old 07-10-2024, 04:58 PM   #543
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Wouldn't be the Flames if they didn't draft in the mid-teens for the first year of a rebuild.
They’d be drafting much lower than mid teens if they don’t finish bottom ten
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We aren’t even close to bottoming out yet. There’s still lots of ripping apart yet to be done.
Soon enough we will start hearing vets asking for trades. We have a long way to go yet.
If this is the path we are taking, It’s important that we are bad while trying to win.
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I dunno about that. Huberdeau can't be traded. That leaves Kadri, Coleman, Backlund, Weegar, and possibly Andersson as vets with value? Out of a whole roster that's not very many players. Kuzmenko, Coleman, and Lomberg all look like good candidates to be gone by the end of the year.

I wouldn't say there's "lots" of ripping apart to do. Most of the vets are gone and the Flames are, correctly, waiting until several players have more value to move them. It's more like the ripping apart is largely done with a few stragglers left.

They still need to ice a cap compliant team of some kind.
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Old 07-10-2024, 06:05 PM   #545
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Hopefully Andersson and Coleman ask for trades.

Maybe even Kadri but it’s seems doubtful.
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Old 07-10-2024, 06:12 PM   #546
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I dunno about that. Huberdeau can't be traded. That leaves Kadri, Coleman, Backlund, Weegar, and possibly Andersson as vets with value? Out of a whole roster that's not very many players. Kuzmenko, Coleman, and Lomberg all look like good candidates to be gone by the end of the year.

I wouldn't say there's "lots" of ripping apart to do. Most of the vets are gone and the Flames are, correctly, waiting until several players have more value to move them. It's more like the ripping apart is largely done with a few stragglers left.

They still need to ice a cap compliant team of some kind.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Kadri, Coleman, Weegar, Andersson and Kuzmenko go yet.

Making the floor won’t be a problem.


If those guys ask to go you better let them. Make the floor with bad contracts for picks. This is a rip to the studs
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Old 07-10-2024, 07:20 PM   #547
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I dunno about that. Huberdeau can't be traded. That leaves Kadri, Coleman, Backlund, Weegar, and possibly Andersson as vets with value? Out of a whole roster that's not very many players. Kuzmenko, Coleman, and Lomberg all look like good candidates to be gone by the end of the year.

I wouldn't say there's "lots" of ripping apart to do. Most of the vets are gone and the Flames are, correctly, waiting until several players have more value to move them. It's more like the ripping apart is largely done with a few stragglers left.

They still need to ice a cap compliant team of some kind.
Nobody is picking up a full year of Lomberg at 2 million a year. He can’t be moved until next year imo. Coleman, Rasmus and Kadri all have decent value now. As does Weegar but I hope they do not trade him.
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I can't see Weegar asking to be moved Fter coming out to the media saying what he did. He's here for the long haul.
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Old 07-10-2024, 09:15 PM   #549
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I can't see Weegar asking to be moved Fter coming out to the media saying what he did. He's here for the long haul.
I agree and I suspect that Kadri is too (which I am personally fine with). I still think Rasmus gets moved sometime this year and an off chance that Coleman does. If 4 years of Tyler Bertuzzi is worth 5.5 million then 3 years of Coleman at 4.9 million is definitely a tradeable and attractive contract.
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Whenever I read the title, I read it to the song "F the police" so I asked CHATGPT to write a song "This is a rebuild" to "F the police". Spoilered for those that don't want to read it.


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Whenever I read the title, I read it to the song "F the police" so I asked CHATGPT to write a song "This is a rebuild" to "F the police". Spoilered for those that don't want to read it.


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AI needs to die. It's getting too good. I'm all for cyborgs but not artificial. Resist the Ai .
I for one will welcome our new AI overlords.
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I just love that it worked 'trust the process' into the lyrics.
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Old 07-11-2024, 11:17 AM   #555
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I can't see Weegar asking to be moved Fter coming out to the media saying what he did. He's here for the long haul.
Not sure if already posted...

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That isn't a good deal. 19 point Kaapo Kakko, who is only on a one year deal, a second rounder and Trouba (who is basically a two year cap dump). The Flames could potentially flip Trouba with retention at the 2026 TDL I suppose). But a 50 point Dman with team leadership qualities, signed long term at a reasonable price? I'd need more.
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Hopefully Andersson and Coleman ask for trades.

Maybe even Kadri but it’s seems doubtful.
If they've moving that much salary out, they are going to have to take on some bad contracts to meet the cap floor. Ideally not long-term ones.
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you want Weegar, include Perrault in the deal.
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That isn't a good deal. 19 point Kaapo Kakko, who is only on a one year deal, a second rounder and Trouba (who is basically a two year cap dump). The Flames could potentially flip Trouba with retention at the 2026 TDL I suppose). But a 50 point Dman with team leadership qualities, signed long term at a reasonable price? I'd need more.
It's also about as reliable a source as any of the trade rumours we make up in this thread as fans, and is just a Fan Blog spitballing.
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It's also about as reliable a source as any of the trade rumours we make up in this thread as fans, and is just a Fan Blog spitballing.
I realized that. But it was a bad spitball.
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