2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[bax]

Originally Posted by Funkhouser

Assuming we re-sign Lindholm, what would a Kadri trade to COL look like?
They didn’t want to sign him last summer to this amount, what has changed?

I would expect something like Kadri ($1M retained) for the COL 1st. Thoughts??


Note: in this scenario I would also re-sign Backlund to a 3 yr deal.

Flames aren’t going to retain salary for 6 seasons. Kadri is here to stay.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Funkhouser

Assuming we re-sign Lindholm, what would a Kadri trade to COL look like?
They didn’t want to sign him last summer to this amount, what has changed?

I would expect something like Kadri ($1M retained) for the COL 1st. Thoughts??


Note: in this scenario I would also re-sign Backlund to a 3 yr deal.

They definitely are lacking a second line center so they might view Kadri as a 3-4 year option and his contract is an easier one to buyout.

I would think something around him and Girard so they have the money to sign Byram and others. I think it is a long shot for the Flames but not completely out of the realm of possibility

[Poe969]

If they were doing a full on rebuild, I could see retaining on Kadri for 6 years but not if they want to be competitive.

[Erick Estrada]

The Islanders (replaced that void in their organization with Horvat) and the Flames were really the only teams willing to give Kadri that kind of money and term. I really can't see many teams being interested in taking on his contract. Fans have to accept he's going to be a Flame for a long time for better or worse. I expect a better upcoming season from him and Huberdeau as I suspect Huska will be willing to work with them rather than dictate.

[Jiri Hrdina]

How does it work with Landeskog on IR. You can exceed cap in the off-season but you can't move players to LTIR until the season starts? So can they really add Kadri.
I don't think it's likely but any deal involving the Avs probably has Girard coming back. It seems like they've been trying to move him for ages.
Newhook is also possibly a preference for them over moving their 1st.

[SuperMatt18]

If the Flames move Hanifin...I do wonder about Girard for Kadri as the basis for something.

Girard: 4 x $5M
for
Kadri: 6 x $7M

Honestly feel like it could happen if the Flames would retain $1M, but as others said it's doubtful they would retain $1M. And really it depends on the market for Girard...Avs have been rumored to be shopping him for a while with no takers. Is he seen as having value or is he also seen as a bit of a cap dump?

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

How does it work with Landeskog on IR. You can exceed cap in the off-season but you can't move players to LTIR until the season starts? So can they really add Kadri.
I don't think it's likely but any deal involving the Avs probably has Girard coming back. It seems like they've been trying to move him for ages.
Newhook is also possibly a preference for them over moving their 1st.

I thought they could activate the LTIR as soon the roster had to be cap compliant but they lose any ability to accrue off that player during the season.

[traptor]

I wonder how much you would have to retain to make Kadri for Girard enticing. 2 million?

Is it better to be paying girard 7m×4 then 2million of dead money for 2 years or kadri for 7mx6?

Kadri was brought in for a reason and that is because we wanted a legit 2c.

Does that not just re-create a hole?

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

It seems interesting to me we have really heard nothing about Kadri since the season ended. Maybe it was because he had relatively decent numbers last year despite a horrible second half?

I agree having both he and Lindholm making huge money in their 30’s is not ideal. I put in the bold predictions thread that I think Kadri could be moved this summer. Realistically it only makes sense if the Avs come calling as I see Kadri easily waiving to go back there.

I think we haven't heard much about Kadri because there isn't anything to report. I can't imagine why anyone would want to take him with that contract. And it seems very unlikely the Flames would retain on his deal even if they were trying to rebuild and not stay the course like it seems they are doing.

[Spurs]

With the length of Kadri's deal and Landeskog only being out one year i don't see how the Avs fit him in. They seem set up for long term success and adding kadri for one season doesn't seem close to worth it to put themselves in potentially a cap nightmare situation.

The Girard deal would have to be coming back I would think to make it even close to possible but even then it would seem we would have to add to make it worth it to them.

[CliffFletcher]

The Avs will be looking for a pending UFA to backfill for Landeskog, not a big-ticket contract with term. Far more likely they ask the Flames about Backlund than Kadri.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

The Avs will be looking for a pending UFA to backfill for Landeskog, not a big-ticket contract with term. Far more likely they ask the Flames about Backlund than Kadri.

Or Lindholm.

[Knut]

Kadri also was coming off a long playoff run where he was injured. He was clearly injured in the finals. Short offseason. Change in Cities and team and then having to deal with Sutter.

I would want to give him a year where he had a long offseason to recover and train and with a new coach before judging the contract.

A Kadri that scores 60 pts and plays his tenacious style is worth 7M.

[Sandman]

I could definitely see the Avs having interest in Kadri, with his familiarity to the team, coach, and system.

[HighLifeMan]

If we can get productivity out of Kadri for the next four years then that's all that really matters. A buyout becomes a viable option after that. It's not really an "anchor" due the to structure of the deal.

[Tbull8]

I want to take a chance on Lafreniere. Since 2020/21 he has the same number of even strength goals as Zibanejad. Only 21 years old. Would love to see him on a line opposite Huby

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Knut

A Kadri that scores 60 pts and plays his tenacious style is worth 7M.

At 33, can he do that for 6 more years? How many?

[Icon]

Kadri was pretty clearly the best player on the Flames for the first couple months of the season. More of that please!

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

The Flames don’t want to take a step back.

They feel they need more scoring up front.

So it’s extremely unlikely they move their top scorer unless they get another 65+ point player back in a trade (there aren’t any available as UFAs). If Toffoli wants to re-sign, they’ll extend him.

Whether that’s smart asset management is another question altogether. But I expect fans hoping for rebuilding trades and ruthless asset management are going to be disappointed by this offseason. Nothing Flames management has said suggests they’re going to change the strategic direction of the franchise.

Huberdeau - Lindholm - Toffoli (last year)
15-40-55 - 22-42-64 - 34-39-73 - total: 71-121-192

Huberdeau - Lindholm - Coronato (this year)
25-55-80 - 25-45-70 - 20-15-35 - total: 70-115-185

Those seem like pretty reasonable expectations for those 3, if they were a line. Plus you get a return for trading Toffoli, plus the cap savings

[Flame On]

Originally Posted by Toonage

So its starting to feel like...

Hanifin, Backlund, Toffoli to be traded
Lindholm to re-sign

And now that Nonis is on board and Dreger is back in the know, Mitch Love apparently is "circling back" to the Flames about joining the staff.

Busy week ahead.

I haven't heard more info about Backlund wanting out is there more stuff out there?
And, if that's the case why would Lindholm want to resign with that amount of stability leaving?