[News] UPD: Aug 4 released renderings of Event Centre in OP (+ new ext. renders in post #704)

[Mr.Coffee]

Haha so busted…


It’s not that bad. That dude in Familias post is overreacting. I’m sure I’ll still go drink beer and cheer the Flames. I feel like it could be better, but it isn’t bad per se. Its very vanilla / bland. Whatever, it doesn’t really matter.

[Jiri Hrdina]

It’s also inaccurate as there have been plenty of criticisms by us lemmings

Hates the team
Seems to hate this site

Odd way for someone to spend their time

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Lol that site was good for a laugh at least. A bunch of wannabe architects and designers trash anything and everything about the arena by pretending they’re pros.

Kinda like CP. A bunch of wannabe NHL coaches and GMs trash anything and everything about the team by pretending we’re pros.

[Mass_nerder]

I love the idea of the perforated metal facade, but they really didn't push it at all. Like, there are hundreds of fantastic examples of using this to incredible effect, and they just kind of phoned it in. They need to move their attractor point a little closer to the surface to create a little more transparency at least.
I'm confident I could recreate this in grasshopper in an hour, and I'm not even a particularly good parametric modeler.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Lol that site was good for a laugh at least. A bunch of wannabe architects and designers trash anything and everything about the arena by pretending they’re pros.

Kinda like CP. A bunch of wannabe NHL coaches and GMs trash anything and everything about the team by pretending we’re pros.

Sure but have you seen Francis’ body of work this off-season? I’m extremely confident I could have made a better Kraken team.

[Boreal]

Isn’t the point of drawings like this to iterate, and improve as many aspects of the project as possible before construction starts?

I’ve always learned that if you have concerns or issues you dislike about a project frame and then communicate them in a legitimate way that directly and explicitly communicates the deficiencies or improvements you’re looking to convey. If need be, reference language about the project or in the plans that are guiding it.

Don’t speak abstractly about how it’s bland or ugly or boring. Directly communicate the specifics of how/where/when/why you feel this way in order to better the process.

When I look at this I think of how Nenshi’s mandate was, public money <-> public benefit. I don’t see it yet, but that’s the point I guess. Improve it!

To me it seems like they’ve botched the engagement on this by dropping images that leave more questions than answers about how this is the centerpiece of an entertainment district.

[Jethro Choicebro]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Well basically I just copied the design ...then I added some fins for lower wind resistance, and this racing stripe here I feel is pretty sharp

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Lol that site was good for a laugh at least. A bunch of wannabe architects and designers trash anything and everything about the arena by pretending they’re pros.

Kinda like CP. A bunch of wannabe NHL coaches and GMs trash anything and everything about the team by pretending we’re pros.

The thing is, some of em there are actually architects and designers whereas no one here (to my knowledge) has ever been an actual NHL general manager.

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by Boreal

Isn’t the point of drawings like this to iterate, and improve as many aspects of the project as possible before construction starts?

I’ve always learned that if you have concerns or issues you dislike about a project frame and then communicate them in a legitimate way that directly and explicitly communicates the deficiencies or improvements you’re looking to convey. If need be, reference language about the project or in the plans that are guiding it.

Don’t speak abstractly about how it’s bland or ugly or boring. Directly communicate the specifics of how/where/when/why you feel this way in order to better the process.

When I look at this I think of how Nenshi’s mandate was, public money <-> public benefit. I don’t see it yet, but that’s the point I guess. Improve it!

To me it seems like they’ve botched the engagement on this by dropping images that leave more questions than answers about how this is the centerpiece of an entertainment district.

These are from the development permit application, so this is basically what it will look like, assuming the City doesn't have a lot of comments about the project.
Generally the designers have been in contact with the city to figure out what will and won't pass through by this point though.

[SebC]

If this was the postcard view, it would be okay.



But the postcard view is this...



It's like a cat who lifts its tail and shows you its butthole when you point a camera at it.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

The thing is, some of em there are actually architects and designers whereas no one here (to my knowledge) has ever been an actual NHL general manager.

Oh yeah? How many billion dollar arena designers post there? Is it none? I’m guessing it’s none.

There are actual hockey players, coaches and GMs on CP too. And just like that site, we’re all amateurs by comparison.

[Beatle17]

Originally Posted by SebC

If this was the postcard view, it would be okay.



But the postcard view is this...



It's like a cat who lifts its tail and shows you its butthole when you point a camera at it.

And you know this how?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

The thing is, some of em there are actually architects and designers whereas no one here (to my knowledge) has ever been an actual NHL general manager.

That’s nice, but hearing the opinions on an arena from a guy who designed a strip mall in McKenzie Town means about as much as the opinion on Darryl Sutter from a guy who coached his kid’s hockey team once.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Oh yeah? How many billion dollar arena designers post there? Is it none? I’m guessing it’s none.

That's a rather narrow view. Why does an architect have to have worked on a billion dollar arena to have an educated opinion on it? Project values don't necessarily determine an architect's talent or ability to interpret the design challenge.

[shogged]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

That’s nice, but hearing the opinions on an arena from a guy who designed a strip mall in McKenzie Town means about as much as the opinion on Darryl Sutter from a guy who coached his kid’s hockey team once.

Well no lol if you’re designing a strip mall in McKenzie Towne, you’re definitely more professionally accomplished than a 1 game minor hockey coach

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by shogged

Well no lol if you’re designing a strip mall in McKenzie Towne, you’re definitely more professionally accomplished than a 1 game minor hockey coach

Doesn’t really matter, honestly. The architect who designed this building is more accomplished than the strip mall architect, so their opinion doesn’t matter anyways if the measure is professional accomplishment.

But I didn’t say that. I just said their opinion means about as much. And it does.

And how do you know I meant one game? Maybe I meant one season. One championship season when the coach, let’s say he was a former lawyer, brings together a rag-tag team of kids who just need someone to believe in them and, more importantly, to believe in themselves, as he coaches them from worst of the bunch to state championships. In comparison, strip mall guy kind eats dirt, honestly. They don’t make movies featuring strip mall guy.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Beatle17

And you know this how?

Because it's the Southeast corner, as per the site plan. And it will be most prominent in photos from the Southeast, just as the Saddledome is. (The postcard view is actually from higher elevation, but that's the gist of it.)

[sureLoss]

Looks like the parkade was originally where the practice/community arena was supposed to be. It is the perfect size to fit an NHL sheet and a few rows of seating.

[Rutuu]

Honest question...

I thought that the surrounds of the building was supposed to be restaurants and bars? There was a lot of talk about not having a big wall with nothing on ground level...it feels like the opposite with this rendering as all I have seen are walls that run most of the block.

[The Familia]

Community rink to parkade....yup that’s beneficial for an entertainment district. One actually benefits the city and the other lines the pockets of the owners.