[Trade] Flames acquire Mike Smith (25% retained) for Chad Johnson, Brandon Hickey, & cond 3rd

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

For anyone tbat loves this trade Convince me how a 35 year old Elliott goalie is a better situation than a 32 year old Elliott calibre of goalie?
Mike Smith and Brian Elliott are pretty much the same level of goalie that is a fact.

Smith is more consistent and can do it for longer with less meltdowns

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

For anyone tbat loves this trade Convince me how a 35 year old Elliott goalie is a better situation than a 32 year old Elliott calibre of goalie?
Mike Smith and Brian Elliott are pretty much the same level of goalie that is a fact.

With Elliott you're probably looking at 4.5 - 5 mill per and at least 3 years term. With Smith you have 4.25 with just 2 years left.

This is the better option IMO and BT did a phenomenal job yet again with regards to the overall value of this trade.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

I think it's not fair to judge this deal without knowing what the acquisition cost of Raanta was.

From the Rangers? It would definitely have been more than an unsigned College d-man, an unsigned UFA backup goalie, and a conditional 2/3 draft pick.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

For anyone tbat loves this trade Convince me how a 35 year old Elliott goalie is a better situation than a 32 year old Elliott calibre of goalie?

Mike Smith and Brian Elliott are pretty much the same level of goalie that is a fact.

Elliott completed folded when we needed him most. Not sure how you can even begin to want him back. He's a total head case.

It doesn't really matter that Smith is 35, we need someone for two seasons who we can rely on.

[Francis's Hairpiece]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

For anyone tbat loves this trade Convince me how a 35 year old Elliott goalie is a better situation than a 32 year old Elliott calibre of goalie?
Mike Smith and Brian Elliott are pretty much the same level of goalie that is a fact.

If history is any indication, nobody will be able to convince you of anything regardless of how much information they provide, and you will go through every single thread to rant about how strongly you hate the trade.

So we have that to look forward to. Which is nice.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

For anyone tbat loves this trade Convince me how a 35 year old Elliott goalie is a better situation than a 32 year old Elliott calibre of goalie?
Mike Smith and Brian Elliott are pretty much the same level of goalie that is a fact.

No it's not a fact.

Elliott has worse numbers on a better defensive team than Smith did on a worse defensive team.

Also, Elliott has proven incapable of starting the amount of games required to be considered an actual starting goalie.

Smith has started the vast majority of his teams games in 5 of the last 6 seasons, the only one he didn't was because of injury.

Those are facts, not what you said.

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

For anyone tbat loves this trade Convince me how a 35 year old Elliott goalie is a better situation than a 32 year old Elliott calibre of goalie?
Mike Smith and Brian Elliott are pretty much the same level of goalie that is a fact.

Except Smith was not the one that lead us to a round one sweep.

Like most things these days pro sports is a what have you done for me lately business.

Our options were limited.

[JJolg]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

For anyone tbat loves this trade Convince me how a 35 year old Elliott goalie is a better situation than a 32 year old Elliott calibre of goalie?
Mike Smith and Brian Elliott are pretty much the same level of goalie that is a fact.

If flames management believed they are the same goalie do you think we would have moved on from elliott?

The facts show Smith did more last year with a far worse team, can play the puck and is signed for the optimal number of years. After watching the playoff performance if you are happy to bring elliott back then you should at least give Smith a chance.

[blender]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

For anyone tbat loves this trade Convince me how a 35 year old Elliott goalie is a better situation than a 32 year old Elliott calibre of goalie?
Mike Smith and Brian Elliott are pretty much the same level of goalie that is a fact.

Smith can handle a starter work load: Elliot cannot.

[Stay Golden]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Smith is more consistent and can do it for longer with less meltdowns

Smith is a known for getting unglued when he is bumped etc. Come on seriously everyone knows that. That has been every teams strategy including the Flames. Get under Smith's skin.

[debil]

Lost Hickey and 2nd/3rd for Elliot 2.0. pathetic trade.

[Hoop27]

I also believe Smith is going to be helped by the system the Flames play inside their own zone especially on the penalty kill where they sell out to take away the cross crease plays. If you can continue to do that it leaves the shooter looking at a giant target with a good glove.

The system 'should' also help the health of a goaltender who can focus on a more butterfly or compact style than trying to get side to side constantly. At least that would be the hope.

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by codynw

Honestly, #### this stupid franchise.

How is Smith/Johnson better than what they went with last year?

Just leave then. This isn't a big deal... Elliott/Johnson made sense in theory, it was an intelligent, well thought out move. Didn't work out though, that's life. Not always predictable. We weren't getting Carey Price or Schneider. We needed a goalie to be provide stable goaltending until one of our young guys (maybe) steps up. That's what this is. Management believes in our young guys, so it didn't make much sense to get Raanta or Grubauer(also may have not been a possibility).

Relax. We have a good team. We aren't in our window yet... we are a playoff team. This is our first step after the rebuild. If we reach the contender stage it likely isn't for another 3 years.


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[Poison]

Man the donkeys/trolls are out full force this fine Saturday.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

*Rather have Elliott at $1.5-2M

What makes you think he would've signed for significantly under what he made last season now that he's a UFA? He'll command something close to double if not triple what you're suggesting.

[JJolg]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

Smith is a known for getting unglued when he is bumped etc. Come on seriously everyone knows that. That has been every teams strategy including the Flames. Get under Smith's skin.

Well last year vs the flames he only put up a 943 save percentage and 1.72 gaa so we really got to him

[Yoho]

Will be very interesting to see what Elliott ends up getting and from who.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

Smith is a known for getting unglued when he is bumped etc. Come on seriously everyone knows that. That has been every teams strategy including the Flames. Get under Smith's skin.

Again. His meltdowns result in him getting angry, not mopey. Body language affects your team. If a guy gets fired up, team is going to battle for him. A goalie slouches and shrugs, played get tentative and overprotective In Their own zone.

[Braden]

Originally Posted by Atodaso

Bold Prediction.

Mike Smith breaks the Honda Center curse on his first attempt.

Agreed! With a shutout, and he will become calgarys unsung hero!

[Manhattanboy]

I wonder if part of the strategy now is to accelerate the development of one or more of our young prospects.