12-20-2017, 09:23 AM
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#541
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
Aaaaannnndddd.....they're now leading the division.
No really. Go check the standings.
They have as many points in as many games as the Predators. This team seems legit.
They only trail the Lightning, who they just beat last night.
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Not just leading the division. They're 2nd overall. On December 20! That's amazing for an expansion team. I may get to go to a VGK playoff home game!
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12-20-2017, 09:24 AM
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#542
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by TheFlamesVan
That's the thing, they are all middle pack players. Most other teams have bottom pack players balanced out with high end talent. Combine middle of the pack players with great goaltending, and we are witnessing what is actually an advantage.
Obviously good coaching is playing a major part of it.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rage2
That's one thing I've noticed as well, seems like all 4 lines are balanced at the same level, which makes them deadly when matched with other 3rd and 4th lines.
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That kind of team can catch lightning in a bottle, sometimes even over a whole season. But they don't seem to have success for longer than that. Probably because even a little fallback in play from the average joes cannot be compensated for through a few elite guys.
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12-20-2017, 09:27 AM
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#543
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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You have to think the expansion rules will be harder for Seattle. Owners can't be happy an expansion team is near the top of the league so quickly. Embarrassing for a number of GMs too that an expansion team is outperforming teams that have been building for years.
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12-20-2017, 09:31 AM
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#544
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Franchise Player
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Sour grapes I know, but I don't like it.
I find it very annoying that this expansion team can come in and have a better first season than I've seen the Flames have in pretty much 30 years.
They are on pace for 114 points for #### sakes.
They don't have a lot of older players either, had 12 picks at last years draft (including 3 first rounders and 2 second rounders) and they also have 14 picks total in the first three rounds of the next three drafts. (net of +6)
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12-20-2017, 09:35 AM
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#545
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Germany
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Sometimes "new" Teams are on fire for their first year. I dont see VGK repeating that effort.
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12-20-2017, 09:36 AM
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#546
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Franchise Player
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Just think how Florida feels right now. Granted, a lot of their woes are self inflicted, but two of Vegas' top scorers are 26 year olds who they got to poach from the Panthers and are having excellent years with 31 and 26 points respectively. Meanwhile the Panthers have to watch Vegas sit up in the top 5 of the league standings while FLA toils down near the bottom.
At least all we lost out of the deal was a 35 year old Deryk Engelland.
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12-20-2017, 09:38 AM
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#547
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Sour grapes I know, but I don't like it.
I find it very annoying that this expansion team can come in and have a better first season than I've seen the Flames have in pretty much 30 years.
They are on pace for 114 points for #### sakes.
They don't have a lot of older players either, had 12 picks at last years draft (including 3 first rounders and 2 second rounders) and they also have 14 picks total in the first three rounds of the next three drafts. (net of +6)
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Even if they go only .500 for the rest of the season, they are most likely in the playoffs. One or two games below and they risk missing, but not guaranteed to miss. This is crazy.
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12-20-2017, 09:48 AM
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#548
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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It’s unsustainable imo. I think they’re having a year like the 13/14 Avs.
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12-20-2017, 09:50 AM
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#549
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Vegas success has a lot to do with Florida going crazy, & Columbus making a bad bet.
Instead of just giving Vegas Alex Petrovic they willingly gave them Marchessault and Smith. A pair of guys who were already proven top 6 talent and who were still only 26.
Then you add William Karlsson to that line - and you have a guy who was comparable to a young Backlund here in Calgary. Okay advanced stats, good defensively, but only ever showed inconsistent flashes of offense in Columbus. Now he has taken that next step with more PP time and better linemates (Plus they got a 1st, 2nd, & had to take David Clarkson to that deal)
Those two trades are what really set up the Knights. They now have a top line that is producing as a top 5 line in the league from both an advanced stats and actual production perspective. Add that to their depth on D, and the couple of good scorers they were expected to get (Haula, Perron, Neal), and now you have a good team.
The real crazy part is they were still able to overcome the goalie injuries. In his 14 games Maxime Legacy had a .872 save percentage, and this team was still able to stay afloat.
Last edited by SuperMatt18; 12-20-2017 at 10:41 AM.
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12-20-2017, 09:53 AM
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#550
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Franchise Player
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They also got Subban for free
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12-20-2017, 10:09 AM
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#551
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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12-20-2017, 10:18 AM
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#552
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
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This is for sure a factor....14-3 at home lol
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12-20-2017, 10:33 AM
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#553
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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Seems like it would be easy to save the partying for after the game, and not the night before the game? Unless they fly out right after the game.
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12-20-2017, 10:33 AM
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#554
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Maple Ridge, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buff
No, it is not.
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That's right.
Sapphires is way better.
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12-20-2017, 10:37 AM
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#555
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Franchise Player
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I watched last night's game - they are quite good. Up tempo, creating a lot of prime chances against a tough opponent.
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12-20-2017, 10:38 AM
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#556
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aka Spike
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: The Darkest Corners of My Mind
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Quote:
Originally Posted by troutman
Seems like it would be easy to save the partying for after the game, and not the night before the game? Unless they fly out right after the game.
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Alot of times they do fly out right after the game.
I don't understand the big deal about teams being in Vegas. Teams can get into trouble in any city they play in.
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12-20-2017, 10:51 AM
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#557
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CMPunk
Alot of times they do fly out right after the game.
I don't understand the big deal about teams being in Vegas. Teams can get into trouble in any city they play in.
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There is certainly a novelty right now...also, if the Blues were all out partying in Calgary last night we would all know about it.
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12-20-2017, 11:03 AM
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#558
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First Line Centre
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I checked the schedule and both times we play in Vegas we have the day off before and another road game the following night. Letīs see if the Vegas Flu hits us or not before we play the Knights.
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12-20-2017, 11:05 AM
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#559
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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An afternoon game the day after St Patrick's Day (and Backlund's birthday) will be an interesting challenge for the Flames.
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12-20-2017, 12:46 PM
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#560
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Vancouver, BC
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Anyone find it weird that the Flames still haven't played Vegas once yet, and we're about 33/34 games into the season? Are the Flames the only team Vegas hasn't played yet?
We're even in the same division, so it's not like we'll only play them twice per season.
If they are going to decline later (which I am starting to doubt), then maybe we can hit them on their downswing.
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