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Old 06-14-2017, 12:54 PM   #5521
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Sounds like posturing to increase value for a deal.
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Old 06-14-2017, 12:57 PM   #5522
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I really like Backlund and he is one of my favourite players. However, I think a line of Tkachuk-Bennett-Galchenyuk in the future could be dominant once all of those players develop.
Galchenyuk is an unreal talent. The Habs have really messed up his development. Backlund would certainly be a Claude Julien kind of player. Would hate to see him go.
But while they are grabbing Chucky, they may as well take Sergachev also
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Old 06-14-2017, 01:01 PM   #5523
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maybe its the fact that nothing seems to go right for the Flames lately but I am seriously worried about their protection list

I fully expect them to lose Ferland in another PR nightmare
On it's own it would be a pretty stupid move to protect Brouwer over Ferland. If Treliving is half as good a GM as we think he is I simply don't see how he could leave Ferland unprotected unless there was something in it for the Flames from LV and if that's the case I would be fine with it as IMO he's not a core player. The Flames really need a goaltender so fans have to accept a roster player, prospect and/or draft pick may have to be sent out to bring in a goaltender that the team covets.
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Old 06-14-2017, 01:01 PM   #5524
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I don't see the Flames trading Backlund or not signing him to FA contracts until he is into his mid 30's. He bleeds red and is an awesome player....defensive stud. He isn't going anywhere and any trade dreams with him involved are a waste of internet bytes IMO.
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Old 06-14-2017, 01:05 PM   #5525
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Still don't get the reasoning as to why Vegas wouldn't want Brouwer. They need to reach the cap floor and there's way better options than Kulak/Wotherspoon elsewhere. Brouwer will be one of the better forwards exposed, frankly.
If you use the expansion tools, reaching the cap floor is not an issue. Teams are pushing hard to for Vegas to take bad contracts off their hands. I think the only way Brouwer gets chosen is if we offer Vegas more than what other teams are offering to take on their bad contracts.
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Old 06-14-2017, 01:09 PM   #5526
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Yeah, unless something crazy happens I think the Flames center core for the foreseeable future is Monahan (22), Backlund (28), Bennett (21), Lazar (22) and Jankowski (22).

Flames fans should probably just get used to it, and be happy about it, because although there doesn't seem to be any "point per game super star centers" there, it's still a pretty darn good and young group to build with.
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On it's own it would be a pretty stupid move to protect Brouwer over Ferland. If Treliving is half as good a GM as we think he is I simply don't see how he could leave Ferland unprotected unless there was something in it for the Flames from LV and if that's the case I would be fine with it as IMO he's not a core player. The Flames really need a goaltender so fans have to accept a roster player, prospect and/or draft pick may have to be sent out to bring in a goaltender that the team covets.
I agree to some extent...I mean I have been very adamant on here that if Ferland is on the top line this season the flames should just throw in the towel. However I just expect the worst lately

Ferland gone over Brouwer....Elliott or Mason in goal.

It does seem odd that we are so worried to lose players who didn't even come close to getting it done. I think Backlund is a good player too but where was he down the stretch and in the playoffs? He is certainly not untouchable.
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Old 06-14-2017, 01:11 PM   #5528
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Sounds like posturing to increase value for a deal.
Posturing on player value at a private event for season ticket holders?
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Old 06-14-2017, 01:14 PM   #5529
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Posturing on player value at a private event for season ticket holders?
Backlund was also the unquestioned MVP of the Flames last season. Not posturing.
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Old 06-14-2017, 01:20 PM   #5530
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Treliving called Backlund the team MVP last night. I don't see the tea trading him unless it is a massive overpayment
He also said on the radio that Brouwer isn't going anywhere but no one seems to listen to that...
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Old 06-14-2017, 01:22 PM   #5531
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Why does everyone keep trying to trade Backlund for worse players.

GalchenYUCK am I right ?
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Old 06-14-2017, 01:22 PM   #5532
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So is there a chance for a deal to be made with NYR involving Stepan & Raanta?
Unless the Flames want to trade Backlund or Bennett I do not think so.

I could see the Rangers loving to get a guy like Bennett or Galchenyuk for Stepan. They had success with the Brassard for Zibenijad trade last year and got a player with similar production who was 5 years younger and half the cap hit
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He also said on the radio that Brouwer isn't going anywhere but no one seems to listen to that...
When did he say those words?
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He also said on the radio that Brouwer isn't going anywhere but no one seems to listen to that...
Uh, I don't think this is true.

He talked like he would be better on the ice next season, but I heard no guarantee that he'd be back for sure.
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Why does everyone keep trying to trade Backlund for worse players.

GalchenYUCK am I right ?
Can you explain to me why you think Galchenyuk is a worse player than Backlund?

Galchenyuk is a 23 year old, 55-60 point player already and scored 30 goals last season. He is a big body, so it's not size that you are talking about.

Are you going to say Backlund is better defensively? That is true but Backlund is also currently 5 years older and at 23, was definitely not as good defensively as he is now.

Fair enough, that you like Backlund more or think he is a better fit... but the whole "YUCK" thing is weird. It's not like people are suggesting Backlund for Byron.. Galchenyuk is a former 3rd overall player who has improved every single year that he has been in the league.

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Old 06-14-2017, 01:41 PM   #5536
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He also said on the radio that Brouwer isn't going anywhere but no one seems to listen to that...
If Tre said that, then he probably already asked GMGM if they will take Brouwer if he is exposed, and the answer was "no".

Flames have no issue with the expansion draft. I think Vegas might actually take Stajan. There's a lack of good centres in the expansion draft and they will also be able to flip him at the deadline for maybe a 3rd or 4th round pick.

Asset wise, Stajan might be the best selection for VGK.
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Old 06-14-2017, 02:16 PM   #5537
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Would be great if we could pull Halak out of NYI in exchange for Brouwer. Would kill 2 birds with 1 stone (for both teams).
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Old 06-14-2017, 02:16 PM   #5538
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Can you explain to me why you think Galchenyuk is a worse player than Backlund?

Galchenyuk is a 23 year old, 55-60 point player already and scored 30 goals last season. He is a big body, so it's not size that you are talking about.

Are you going to say Backlund is better defensively? That is true but Backlund is also currently 5 years older and at 23, was definitely not as good defensively as he is now.

Fair enough, that you like Backlund more or think he is a better fit... but the whole "YUCK" thing is weird. It's not like people are suggesting Backlund for Byron.. Galchenyuk is a former 3rd overall player who has improved every single year that he has been in the league.


For me it's trading a center for a winger. I like Galchenyuk but we rely way too much on Backlund up the middle to make that deal.
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Old 06-14-2017, 02:30 PM   #5539
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Hearing a lot of rumblings that a Drouin/Galchenyuk swap is coming...I'm no tradebreaker, so take it for what it's worth.

Conor McKenna @mckennaconor
again, nothing definitive, but sounds like the Habs would be packaging a first with Galchenyuk in the deal.
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Damn, I'd love to have Drouin on the Flames.
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