Official WWE/ECW/WCW/TNA talk, or whatever v2

[Muta]

Would love to see Ali in NJPW. I think he'd fit in amazing there.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Muta

Would love to see Ali in NJPW. I think he'd fit in amazing there.

Yup. He is the exact kind of big name talent you pick up, have absolute classics with your entire roster, train younger guys on character development in a promoter's world, and showcase on NJPW/AEW cross promotions.

Dude is going to be in demand.

[Inferno]

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[TheIronMaiden]

Ziggler in his prime was the best bump taker in the WWE

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Inferno

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They must really hate Emma and Mustafa Ali if they cut both of them twice on the same day!

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Moxley was spiked pretty bad and hopefulky only a concussion.

AEW does need to chill on some of the driver spots...somebody is going to break their neck

AEW needs to chill on a lot of spots, They had released that list of spots that you needed permission to do or were banned, but the workers are still doing them.


I've said that AEW needs a stronger production team that tells some of these guys, frack no your not doing these spots.


They've been fortunate, they've had some serious injuries, but they've had some very close calls on really dangerous stuff.



They also need to stop doing moves that look stupid. Like your going to gingerly walk the ropes for 5 minutes while your opponent waits for you to jump off.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

I know everyone hates it, but I think WWE was onto something banning stuff like the pile driver.


You can still pop it out here and there, but even skilled guys can #### it up and end a career at worse.


Edit - And they did one on Saraya!?! What the actual ####?!

This is what happens when you let modern wrestlers run their matches without supervision.



In the old days the veterans could handled it because they were like F no we don't need a 360 off the top rope moss covered credenza, so we ain't doing it. Now because it feels like wrestlers aren't doing this stuff for the fans. But for TV spots and the boys in the back, they just do stupid risky things. And that's WWE too.


The biggest disappointments is that AEW has Arn in the back, one of the best psychological minds in the game, and one of the most realistic workers. He should be telling these people to knock it off. No Jon you don't need to bleed on every TV show while having a pasta covered grenade shoved up your butt. We know you can work, what your doing now is just a fetish.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Inferno

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Not like huge losses. I'm happy for Ali, he deserves better, he's an exceptional worker.

Dolph will end up in AEW, they can't resist it, he was a great worker in his day, but when he gave up and became just a job guy he went with that.

Aliyah was getting a pretty good push, got hurt, and never came back.


Elias will end up in AEW or more then likely Impact.

AEW should hire Shelton as a trainer.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

The biggest disappointments is that AEW has Arn in the back, one of the best psychological minds in the game, and one of the most realistic workers. He should be telling these people to knock it off.

Pretty sure Arn is checking out and doesn't GAF. When he was on RJ City's show, he said he was close to retirement. I wouldn't give two hoots either, especially when the roster is all in the business of taking huge spots anyways, so teaching proper piledriver technique is probably lost on them.

[trackercowe]

I counted maybe seven piledrivers last night in 3-4 different matches? There were some great matches, there's no doubt about that... but you gotta wonder how long these guys will last? Omega is already on borrowed time, Moxley is always hurt, and the New Japan guys are all damaged goods. Larp on WWE all you want for their safe-style, but there's a method to their madness. If you want your roster to remain healthy until their into their later years it's best to tone down the amount of damage taken to their body. There's a reason that move was retired once Undertaker hung up his boots.

[SuperMatt18]

I don't mind Ziggler for AEW.

Just because he can work in the ring, he can sell, and think he actually does a good job at putting young guys over. Doesn't feel like a guy who's ego makes them think they are more important than they are too.

If they use him right and use him to elevate midcard guys then I thing he could be a good fued for guys like Daniel Garcia, Ricky Starks, or Darby Allin...and of course they end up going over on him.

Feel like him and Shelton Benjamin would help as producers too. Get rid of a bunch of the other roster fat (my post on the previous page) and I think you can make it work.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Moxley was spiked pretty bad and hopefulky only a concussion.

AEW does need to chill on some of the driver spots...somebody is going to break their neck

Apparently he was given a concussion when Fenix dived off the stage to open the match. Had nothing to do with either driver.

[rubecube]

Looks like Smackdown's ratings weren't worth what FOX paid for them and it's heading back to USA Network.

[d_phaneuf]

Can tell how much dolph was respected when cena and the rock are commenting on him right away

I think he's the one guy from the releases who would be good in aew, fits a role they seem to be lacking

2nd best cash in ever? Seth has to be 1

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Apparently he was given a concussion when Fenix dived off the stage to open the match. Had nothing to do with either driver.

The 2nd driver definitely compressed his neck a bit, glad nothing serious

Also fenix has to have known he was hurt, why not do something safer after the first count was messed up?

[trackercowe]

Fenix and Penta seem rather dangerous in the ring. If I'm not mistaken they have been involved in multiple injuries during their duration in AEW.

[Muta]

True, but that said, for me they're super fun to watch in the ring - Fenix especially, what a talent. I actually made wrestling fans out of a few friends when I had an AEW PPV going on in the background while hosting a party, and they saw the Fenix/Penta vs. Young Bucks cage match and were mezmerized. I always thought Fenix should hold some singles gold at some point.

[darockwilder]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Apparently he was given a concussion when Fenix dived off the stage to open the match. Had nothing to do with either driver.

That's what I thought at the time. Mox looked pretty messed up a fair time after that first move. Funny that both Fenix and Cole jumping off that ramp caused injuries. Cole's was far less exciting...

[CaptainCrunch]

I remember watching Heyman on Steve Austin's show a few years back, when he talked about how uneccessary some of these over the top stops were, especially on TV shows that nobody is going to remember next week.

He also talked about the fact that a good worker with the right mindset can make something like the Sleeper look like the most devestating finisher ever.

I remember in Stampede Wrestling the Sleeper was an outright deadly secretive move that was so deadly that if the winner didn't wake the loser up after the match, the loser could suffer devestating brain damage.

Meanwhile in modern wrestling, moves that should be finishers or devastating are being kicked out like they're headlocks, so of course these workers are coming up with these stupid moves that they don't know how do do, and the opponent has no idea how to protect him or her self.

The DDT has been completely watered down, so is the pile driver and things like power bombs (Which was the finishing move of sh$tty big guys).

Big moves, bleeding, finishers have no effect on modern wrestling anymore. It feels like Moxley probably even bleeds at home. Renee asks him to take out the garbage and he comes stumbling back in bleeding like a stuck pig with a wedge of pasta in his head, and Renee rolls her eyes and goes back to reading her paper.

When I look back on the piledriver that shook the world (Funk on Flair), the DDT by Jake the Snake. Christ even the step over toe hold where you would worry about the health of the victim who laid out in the ring. Now these idiots are getting piledriven 6 times on the ramp and bouncing right up. Or it takes 5 finishing moves to pin a person.

You know what I'd like. Someone to come out with a finisher that is like a devastating snap mare. Or a earth shaking power slam.

I think Lance Storm is working for Impact, and some of the good work of the workers comes from him. But bring in guys like Bret Hart, or other story tellers and tell the workers to talk to them and take their advice or your fired.


We're going to head into another era of these workers being debilitated when they're older.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I don't mind Ziggler for AEW.

Just because he can work in the ring, he can sell, and think he actually does a good job at putting young guys over. Doesn't feel like a guy who's ego makes them think they are more important than they are too.

If they use him right and use him to elevate midcard guys then I thing he could be a good fued for guys like Daniel Garcia, Ricky Starks, or Darby Allin...and of course they end up going over on him.

Feel like him and Shelton Benjamin would help as producers too. Get rid of a bunch of the other roster fat (my post on the previous page) and I think you can make it work.

I don't know if Dolph would be interested in that kind of role. I mean he's wealthy, he seems to be doing a lot of stuff outside of the ring (Comedy). He's gotten out with his health and body in decent condition.



I would think that he might be interested in doing a part time appearance thing. I think he's too outspoken to be a producer in AEW.



He could go to Impact, make a decent living and automatically become pretty much a top heel there.