2016 NHL Draft

[cral12]

Not sure I'd like him as the Flames 6th overall pick, but...

my colleague E-Mac is definitely on the Logan Brown bandwagon.

He goes in-depth as to why he thinks the ginormous centreman's stock is all revved up and why he has the potential to be a #1 centre at the next level.

LINK to profile here

[SuperMatt18]

I am still intrigued by Brown.

Feel like you are just scratching the surface with what he could become.

Size, skill, skating ability, vision.

He seems to have it all but just hasn't put it together yet and even then was just as productive as Nylander was in the OHL.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Why would you think scouts underrate defensemen? Every team carries more forwards than defensemen so it's natural that more forwards are picked in the draft due to being part of a larger pool to which there are more spots in organizational depth charts.

He said why they underrate them. Because scouts don't factor in how much they go for in trade and thus defencemen are highly valuable commodities that on average will be worth more than an equivalent forward.

Flames management knows this and it's why I've been theorizing for months that they may have the defencemen slightly higher than some rankings. I think after Tkachuk/Dubois there's a falloff in the forwards and thus a defenceman or two or three are likely to be ahead of the next tier of forwards

[_Q_]

So what time will the draft be and does anyone know if it's televised in the US?

For some reason, it's been impossible to find info on this on google.

Thanks in advance.

[hockey.modern]

Originally Posted by _Q_

So what time will the draft be and does anyone know if it's televised in the US?

For some reason, it's been impossible to find info on this on google.

Thanks in advance.

Not to sure about the time, but it should be on NBCSN featuring the TSN crew.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by _Q_

So what time will the draft be and does anyone know if it's televised in the US?

For some reason, it's been impossible to find info on this on google.

Thanks in advance.

The broadcast starts at 7:00pm EDT on NBC-SN. The second through seventh rounds will probably be streamed on NHL.com.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by hockey.modern

Not to sure about the time, but it should be on NBCSN featuring the TSN crew.

Can we in Canada avoid watching Sportsnet? I assume not, short of using a VPN to get a US stream...

[hockey.modern]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Can we in Canada avoid watching Sportsnet? I assume not, short of using a VPN to get a US stream...

Only way is if you have the channel I assume.

[FBI]

Don't bother watching it, just follow the CP thread.. That's what I'll be doing on a 4 hour car ride.. More info here anyway.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by FBI

Don't bother watching it, just follow the CP thread.. That's what I'll be doing on a 4 hour car ride.. More info here anyway.

What? And miss the informative draft pick interviews, not to mention the Katz love ballad to Keef Jr?

[FBI]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

What? And miss the informative draft pick interviews, not to mention the Katz love ballad to Keef Jr?

All those will be posted in clips here asap anyway

[Commandant]

Picks 46-61 in our mock draft

http://lastwordonsports.com/2016/06/...ound-part-two/

[Hackey]

One week to go. Can't wait. Should be exciting. Last few drafts I feel like we essentially knew who were getting between a couple guys. This one who really knows what could happen. I have in our scouting department.

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by Commandant

Picks 46-61 in our mock draft

http://lastwordonsports.com/2016/06/...ound-part-two/

I just can't see Charlie McAvoy or Fabbro dropping that far. Both are 1st rounders imo.

[FCAV]

Just cause...we've released our preliminary ranking for the 2017 NHL Draft. Not much to add for a 2016 discussion, but thought it'd be interesting nonetheless:

http://futureconsiderations.ca/fc-re...017-nhl-draft/

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by Commandant

Picks 46-61 in our mock draft

http://lastwordonsports.com/2016/06/...ound-part-two/

I wouldn't be surprised if the draft ended up going that way for the Flames. It would be a disappointing haul though for Calgary. Ever since the emphasis on size over talent came in starting with the Kanzig pick, the Flames have tossed away a number of picks taking guys that if they pan out will be maybe become versions of Bollig or Engelland.

If you're using 6ths or 7ths on those types of guys, that's great because if they do pan out, it's great value. Auston Carroll, Adam Ollas Mattsson, Tim Harrison, and Riley Bruce are all good picks to infuse size and toughness into the organization.

Using 2nd's and 3rd's on those types is a waste. The players in the immediate area after Kanzig were Nick Baptiste, Mattias Janmark, and Anthony Duclair. In between the Smith and Hickey picks (54 & 64) the Flames could have had Christian Dvorak (121 pts this season in the OHL) or Brandon Montour (57 points as a D-man in the AHL, taken 1 and 4 picks after Smith.

Instead the Flames have an ECHL defenseman, and a forward that looks like he may take another 2-3 years before cracking the NHL lineup, if he does.


It would be fine if they added Bastian, Lindgren and Fredric, they just would not be getting the value they could going in other directions.

[Fire]

Originally Posted by FCAV

Just cause...we've released our preliminary ranking for the 2017 NHL Draft. Not much to add for a 2016 discussion, but thought it'd be interesting nonetheless:

http://futureconsiderations.ca/fc-re...017-nhl-draft/

Play like geriatrics for Nolan Patrick. Rolls off the tongue.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

I wouldn't be surprised if the draft ended up going that way for the Flames. It would be a disappointing haul though for Calgary. Ever since the emphasis on size over talent came in starting with the Kanzig pick, the Flames have tossed away a number of picks taking guys that if they pan out will be maybe become versions of Bollig or Engelland.

If you're using 6ths or 7ths on those types of guys, that's great because if they do pan out, it's great value. Auston Carroll, Adam Ollas Mattsson, Tim Harrison, and Riley Bruce are all good picks to infuse size and toughness into the organization.

Using 2nd's and 3rd's on those types is a waste. The players in the immediate area after Kanzig were Nick Baptiste, Mattias Janmark, and Anthony Duclair. In between the Smith and Hickey picks (54 & 64) the Flames could have had Christian Dvorak (121 pts this season in the OHL) or Brandon Montour (57 points as a D-man in the AHL, taken 1 and 4 picks after Smith.

Instead the Flames have an ECHL defenseman, and a forward that looks like he may take another 2-3 years before cracking the NHL lineup, if he does.


It would be fine if they added Bastian, Lindgren and Fredric, they just would not be getting the value they could going in other directions.

Agree 100%

And also why I hated the Burke quote where he mentioned prioritizing size in the later rounds.

Size is a preferred trait - meaning a guy that is big who is actually good enough to play is going to be going in the first 30-45 picks of the draft.

After that point big guys you draft usually can't play at a high level - if they could they would be ranked higher.

Later in the draft you should be focusing more on high end skill set and/or fixable flaws.

Maybe a guy has all the tools but is a poor skater (Jaime Benn) , maybe he has all the talent but is small (Gaudreau/Mangiapane), maybe it's a smooth skating d-man with questionable play in his own end (Brodie).

Those are the types of guys you should be focusing on in the later rounds - not guys who are just big for the sake of drafting big guys like Smith and Kanzig

[bucksmasher]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Agree 100%

And also why I hated the Burke quote where he mentioned prioritizing size in the later rounds.

Size is a preferred trait - meaning a guy that is big who is actually good enough to play is going to be going in the first 30-45 picks of the draft.

After that point big guys you draft usually can't play at a high level - if they could they would be ranked higher.

Later in the draft you should be focusing more on high end skill set and/or fixable flaws.

Maybe a guy has all the tools but is a poor skater (Jaime Benn) , maybe he has all the talent but is small (Gaudreau/Mangiapane), maybe it's a smooth skating d-man with questionable play in his own end (Brodie).

Those are the types of guys you should be focusing on in the later rounds - not guys who are just big for the sake of drafting big guys like Smith and Kanzig

I still don't see how the flames could pass on Sergachev at 6. Size, skill, physicality and according to most a higher value than a winger. I want, I want

[sureLoss]

Ryan Kennedy's top 120 for the 2016 draft

http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/fi...he-2016-draft/