Your belief about September, 11th, 2001

[Yeah_Baby]

It was only a matter of time before Lethbridge's truther hero posted in the thread after the bump.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by jar_e

This thread is like spitting in the face of all the memorial events and pissing on the grave of people who died on September 11. Especially to bump this around the anniversary date. What a disgrace.

Actually the majority of the 9-11 families and first responders are for 9-11 truth.

[CaptainCrunch]

Go back and look at the thread all of the stuff you've talked about, the molten steel, the thermite, the fire temperatures have all been discussed to death in the thread.

I even watched demolition exports that attempted to replicate the use of thermite and the theoretical use of so called Super Thermite and could not duplicate the results of the World Trade Center collapses.

The problem with conspiracy theoriest is that they take bits and pieces of things to support their theory and then don't need to prove it, they instead require absolute proof that their theories are incorrect.

Its a burden of proof that doesn't work in a court of law, and doesn't work here.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Actually the majority of the 9-11 families and first responders are for 9-11 truth.

I don't know if that is true, but even if it were, it is a logical fallacy (argument from authority).

http://www.theskepticsguide.org/reso...fallacies.aspx

It is still possible for highly educated individuals, and a broad consensus to be wrong – speaking from authority does not make a claim true.

There are many subtypes of the argument from authority, essentially referring to the implied source of authority. A common example is the argument ad populum – a belief must be true because it is popular, essentially assuming the authority of the masses.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

It was only a matter of time before Lethbridge's truther hero posted in the thread after the bump.

What did you expect?

If you have nothing useful to contribute, beat it. Your one-liners are lame.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Hey CaptainCrunch, ..........check out this one.

Already did, there wasn't anything in there that I haven't seen shot down by multiple other sources.

There was an excellent web site, and I can post the link tonight when I get home that takes down the scientific aspects of 9/11 conspiracy theories.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Actually the majority of the 9-11 families and first responders are for 9-11 truth.

This is such f'in garbage. That halfwits like you attempt to speak on the behalf of these people is disgraceful.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

What did you expect?

If you have nothing useful to contribute, beat it. Your one-liners are lame.

Maybe they're not one liners. Maybe there is a hidden secret text hidden within my posts. I'm actually a vanguard for the fourth reich led by Sarah Palin (who is also my lover) and zombie Hitler.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Go back and look at the thread all of the stuff you've talked about, the molten steel, the thermite, the fire temperatures have all been discussed to death in the thread.

I even watched demolition exports that attempted to replicate the use of thermite and the theoretical use of so called Super Thermite and could not duplicate the results of the World Trade Center collapses.

The problem with conspiracy theoriest is that they take bits and pieces of things to support their theory and then don't need to prove it, they instead require absolute proof that their theories are incorrect.

Its a burden of proof that doesn't work in a court of law, and doesn't work here.

Knowone has disproved molten steel or thermite, it is actually being confirmed by other experts. You need to catch up.

Funny, because I have seen a replication of using thermite to instantly destroy a beam connection. Numerous demolition experts have spoken out about WTC-7, and to them it was all too obvious.

You don't have to have the whole case laid out from start to finish to justify a new investigation Captain....

[Cowperson]

There's no greater time-wasting exercise in the world than arguing with a committed conspiracy theorist.

"Conspiracy theories are one way to make sense of what happened and regain a sense of control. Of course, they're usually wrong, but they're pyschologicaly reassuring. Because what they say is that everything is connected, nothing happens by accident, and that there is some kind of order in the world, even if it's produced by evil forces. I think psychologically, it's in a way consoling to a lot of people." - Michael Barkun, a political scientist at Syracuse University who has written books on the culture of conspiracies

Cowperson

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

Maybe they're not one liners. Maybe there is a hidden secret text hidden within my posts. I'm actually a vanguard for the fourth reich led by Sarah Palin (who is also my lover) and zombie Hitler.

Woah

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by valo403

This is such f'in garbage. That halfwits like you attempt to speak on the behalf of these people is disgraceful.

Don't get all upset about it .......it's true.

You can't use the "this is offensive to the families" excuse.....

Very tiresome.

You should be disgraced that it took nearly a decade for the U.S. government to pass a health bill for these sick, dying people .........because the air was safe to breathe! .........and now they are being excluded from the 10th anniversary ceremony.

Ouch.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

Maybe they're not one liners. Maybe there is a hidden secret text hidden within my posts. I'm actually a vanguard for the fourth reich led by Sarah Palin (who is also my lover) and zombie Hitler.

Boing

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by Cowperson

There's no greater time-wasting exercise in the world than arguing with a committed conspiracy theorist.

"Conspiracy theories are one way to make sense of what happened and regain a sense of control. Of course, they're usually wrong, but they're pyschologicaly reassuring. Because what they say is that everything is connected, nothing happens by accident, and that there is some kind of order in the world, even if it's produced by evil forces. I think psychologically, it's in a way consoling to a lot of people." - Michael Barkun, a political scientist at Syracuse University who has written books on the culture of conspiracies

Cowperson

Oh yes ..........the famous "they need the conspiracy to cope with the tragedy of life" argument.

Yawn.....

[Ducay]

Originally Posted by valo403

This is such f'in garbage. That halfwits like you attempt to speak on the behalf of these people is disgraceful.

Coming into a thread and just spewing insults at a person doesn't help. This is a thread obviously made to debate an issue, so why reduce it to name calling?

(Did I just defend Mikey?)

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Already did, there wasn't anything in there that I haven't seen shot down by multiple other sources.

There was an excellent web site, and I can post the link tonight when I get home that takes down the scientific aspects of 9/11 conspiracy theories.

I would love to see it.

Hopefully scientists wrote the articles and not some hack writer.

[Cowperson]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Oh yes ..........the famous "they need the conspiracy to cope with the tragedy of life" argument.

Yawn.....

As I said . . . . .

Cowperson

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

I would love to see it.

Hopefully scientists wrote the articles and not some hack writer.

Its a compilation of multiple different sources, based on tests that were done, photographic evidence and the use of eye witness statements.

[dissentowner]

Does it really matter? Nobody will ever know the real truth.

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by Beerfest

So you do agree that governments lie to their citizens? So why is it out of the question for them to lie about september 11th?

What part of 911 would they be lying about? There are hundres of thousands of people in goverment, who is lying? All of them?