The Playoff Hunt. Flames Vs Wild Vs Blues

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Haha, they should have signed him what an embarassment

Maybe they'll play him anyway then forfeit the game?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Tacoman

Zeev will play on Tuesday. He flew to Minny today.

The joke is certain posters were losing it yesterday because the "embarassing" Flames didn't have ZP playing in their 78th game of the season while the Wild's GM was so smart and shrewd saying their guy would play. (too bad he didn't sign him in time for tonight)

Well, their guy won't even be available so it was all just the usual suspects getting mad about nothing. So they MIGHT play him in their final game but if its one they gotta win I still have doubts, they already changed course on their starting goalie tonight because they are hearing footsteps.

[ken0042]

Yeah, you have a point. But the east is pretty unique this year. So many teams so close- as of last Friday morning (April 4) no team in the east was eliminated yet.
Montreal is currently 39-40 so still very close to the .500 mark.

[dino7c]

Sure but with this point system you can't count OTL and regular losses the same

you could have 10 wins and 72 loses and end up with 92 points or 20 points

[ken0042]

But that never happens. Why do people focus on being over .500? Because that's kind of the benchmark for making the playoffs.

If the Flames were currently above .500 in total wins/losses, we would have more than a 20% chance of making it currently

[dino7c]

Im mean if the Blues didnt win 12 straight they would be coasting in...it usually takes around 96 points, doesnt really matter how you get them

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by ken0042

But that never happens. Why do people focus on being over .500? Because that's kind of the benchmark for making the playoffs.

Except that it isn't. Each conference is separate, and most years it's easier to make the playoffs in one conference than the other. And loser points count just as much as any other kind of points.

People focus on being over .500, I suspect, because fans want sports to be a morality play in which the good guy wins, and loser points feel like cheating.

[Caged Great]

Well....

Here are the scenarios.

The Flames need Minnesota to lose to Anaheim in regulation. The Flames need to win out.

The Flames need St. Louis to lose either in regulation or OT to Utah. The Flames need to win out, but can lose in OT in one of the final three games if Utah wins in regulation.

Just a matter of time, but the Flames are still alive.

If the Flames win tomorrow, Tuesday is the earliest the Flames can find out their fate. Minnesota and St. Louis both play at 6 PM, with the Knights game at 7. So basically during the 2nd intermission, the Flames would know their assignment. Either play out the string or fight like hell.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Mixed bag of results tonight after a promising start to the evening.

Positives:

-Vegas clinches and is just playing out the string now
-Blues open the door slightly with an OTL

Negatives
-Wild win, meaning they must lose game 82 to be a factor
-Did not get the key result in a regulation loss

[GullFoss]

The chances the wild and blues both win on Tuesday is 35%. So 2-in-3 chance the flames will control their own destiny.

[Strange Brew]

Really thought we’d get more help on the OOT scoreboard tonight.

[GullFoss]

Vancouver coming out with that piss poor effort at home when facing wild on the second half of back to back...is embarrassing

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

Well....

Here are the scenarios.

The Flames need Minnesota to lose to Anaheim in regulation. The Flames need to win out in regulation.

The Flames need St. Louis to lose either in regulation or OT to Utah. The Flames need to win out, but can lose in OT in one of the final three games if Utah wins in regulation.

Just a matter of time, but the Flames are still alive.

If the Flames win tomorrow, Tuesday is the earliest the Flames can find out their fate. Minnesota and St. Louis both play at 6 PM, with the Knights game at 7. So basically during the 2nd intermission, the Flames would know their assignment. Either play out the string or fight like hell.

One ommited scenario:

St Louis winning in OT means the Flames can tie and get in ahead of them by winning out.

So if we're still alive by then, we'll be cheering for the game to go to extra time (*if Utah isn't ahead).

[Just a guy]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

Well....

Here are the scenarios.

The Flames need Minnesota to lose to Anaheim in regulation. The Flames need to win out.

The Flames need St. Louis to lose either in regulation or OT to Utah. The Flames need to win out, but can lose in OT in one of the final three games if Utah wins in regulation.

Just a matter of time, but the Flames are still alive.

If the Flames win tomorrow, Tuesday is the earliest the Flames can find out their fate. Minnesota and St. Louis both play at 6 PM, with the Knights game at 7. So basically during the 2nd intermission, the Flames would know their assignment. Either play out the string or fight like hell.

The scenario where StL loses and Calgary wins two and loses one. They have the same point and regulation wins I believe. So what is next tie breaker?

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Isn't it RW, then ROW?

[topfiverecords]

Stl has the ROW tie breaker so we need three more regulation wins ourself.

[FanSince'01]

Yes, RW then ROW for tiebreak order. We can have the RW tiebreak against St. Louis but we’re screwed if it goes to ROW tiebreak.

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by ken0042

But that never happens. Why do people focus on being over .500? Because that's kind of the benchmark for making the playoffs.

If the Flames were currently above .500 in total wins/losses, we would have more than a 20% chance of making it currently

No, the benchmark is points, or points percentage. Losing in the gimmick after regulation, means you went .500 for that game.
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[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Isn't it RW, then ROW?

Yep.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

I bet we do get a loss Tuesday..

But it's Minnesota, in OT.