The fight choreography was too slow, but the bones are all there.
I enjoyed what felt like peak jedi shenanigans in this episode and it was cheesy fun. However what is happening for a season 2? The events with Thrawn are definitely split now from Ahsoka, Sabine, Baylon and Shin and it would be terrible to have one show try and tell both story lines.
Also why is there no other star cruisers on that planet? Are the crab people and marauders stranded?
The hunch I'm getting is that Ahsoka season 2 will take place in the far away galaxy and explore stuff like the Mortis gods, and origin lore with Baylan (not sure yet how) and Shin, as well as expand on Anakin and Ahsoka's relationship. I think they'll take a full season to bring that group back to the main galaxy.
Meanwhile, Mando 4 probably deals with the main galaxy happenings, since we've already seen how Filoni and Favreau have no issues crossing over these shows since they're intertwined in the same bigger conflict. And I highly suspect Luke is going to enter the fold on that side, since this is all supposed to lead up to a loose adaptation of Heir to the Empire, and the Skywalkers are major characters in that story.
I strongly dislike the fighting choreography here. Spinning and turning your back to an opponent are killing me.
Way worse than sword dancing.
Baylan vs. Ahsoka (the first one) and Anakin vs. Ahsoka were the only good duels that held any kind of tension.
They really need to work on these duels. And if it's not going to be very good, just don't do it. There's usually an easy way around it, like an errant blaster door closing.
That was a better episode than last week's, but this show is getting pretty silly, even for SW. At times it feels like I'm watching a cartoon. Maybe it's because I never watched any of the animated shows or read any of the books or comics, but witches and zombie stormtroopers just doesn't feel like Star Wars to me.
So far I'd rank this series just a notch above Boba Fett, but nowhere near the same quality as Mandalorian, Andor, or Obi-Wan. Hell, even the sequels are more Star Wars-ey than this show.
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Andor's still the best SW show and the other ones will be hard pressed to top it the way they're going.
I don't mind them introducing new concepts and lore like force magic and the sisters. Star Wars had gotten stale and needed something fresh in the live action content, but the execution of it could just be so much tighter.
You have 2 pretty good episodes dragged out into 8, with a bunch of filler and overlong scenes to stretch it to 6 hours or whatever it ended up being.
You literally could have everything that happened here just be outlined in an opening space crawl to the movie.
In the first 30 min, Vader audibly snaps a man’s neck, gives us a shot of C3PO piling up dead Jawa bodies in a pile for burning, and shows the charred corpses of Luke’s adoptive parents.
This is the Star Wars for adults that I want to watch.
Ahsoka was so consequence free that at the end Wren has traded Thrawn’s ship and Ezra (who escaped how?) for a “relationship” moment between Ahsoka and herself.
“We’re exactly where we’re supposed to be”. After we f-over the entire galaxy for no reason.
Although Thraw’s main tactic seems to be nothing but “send insufficent forces while I stand around and speak slowly” so perhaps he isn’t the tactical genius he’s made out to be, and the galaxy will be fine.
Very disappointing show. And I’ll watch any POS that takes place in space.
And why is Bylan in Middle Earth now?
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I expect that Thrawn will pass over to Mando and Boba Fett, I can't see anymore Hera or Chopper or even Ezra in Ashoka as they deal with what's in front of them.
When Baylan told Shin that she would take her place in the Empire, is she going to become the leader of those scavangers and try to form a empire.
Meanwhile the last we saw of Baylan was on the hand of Mortis, it was interesting that the Sister wasn't in the statue, I wonder if Baylan see's himself as taking the role of the light side of that family, and he unearths the Servant/Mother/Abeloth.
Going to be interesting with Ray's death.
It was a bit underwhelming as a season finale.
On the fights, there wasn't much they could do you can't do in real life what you do in animation. But Rosario, I don't think can athletically pull it off. Her blocking blasters looked reallly weird.
I'm not super dissapointed, but I'm not like over the moon, like I was after the first season of Andor.
Like others I kept waiting for the genius of Thrawn like he's portrayed in the book, or even in Rebels. But he does have a limited amount of weapons and personal unlike his time in the Empire.
But he could have put down a proper ambush of troopers and walkers since he doesn't mind sacrificing people.
I assume now that the cargo is dead night sisters and they're repopulating Dathomir.
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I thought overall the season was good. There was some really good Star Wars like episode 5, and some really weak parts like basically anything that involved Sabine.
While I thought the actor who played Ezra did a good job, I had a hard time continually buying into the fact it was Ezra. I dunno, it was just one translation from animation to live action that didn't work for me.
Stevenson was great, I am guessing they have to re cast for that role, which is a real shame, or just complexly abandon whatever it is he is doing there.
Hera/Chopper were great and very well cast. I enjoy seeing where that story goes with Thrawn back now in their galaxy.
Thrawn was well done, but I agree his tactics were a bit lack luster. If the Sisters can find Ahsoka in that debris field, why can't they pin point Ezra down on the planet and just hammer him with your forces. I understand resources are limited but stick your ship over the point and drop troops down, contain him and just literally drown him in blaster fire.
Anyway, holes aside, it was good. Except the ending. It wasn't really great, to many lose ends. If the whole point of the story was for growth in Sabine or for her to come along as an apprentice then maybe we saw something advance. But it was just to hard to tell among the wooden acting she gave us.
I'd still say 7.5/10. Heavily propped up by episode 5.
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I thought overall the season was good. There was some really good Star Wars like episode 5, and some really weak parts like basically anything that involved Sabine.
While I thought the actor who played Ezra did a good job, I had a hard time continually buying into the fact it was Ezra. I dunno, it was just one translation from animation to live action that didn't work for me.
Stevenson was great, I am guessing they have to re cast for that role, which is a real shame, or just complexly abandon whatever it is he is doing there.
Hera/Chopper were great and very well cast. I enjoy seeing where that story goes with Thrawn back now in their galaxy.
Thrawn was well done, but I agree his tactics were a bit lack luster. If the Sisters can find Ahsoka in that debris field, why can't they pin point Ezra down on the planet and just hammer him with your forces. I understand resources are limited but stick your ship over the point and drop troops down, contain him and just literally drown him in blaster fire.
Anyway, holes aside, it was good. Except the ending. It wasn't really great, to many lose ends. If the whole point of the story was for growth in Sabine or for her to come along as an apprentice then maybe we saw something advance. But it was just to hard to tell among the wooden acting she gave us.
I'd still say 7.5/10. Heavily propped up by episode 5.
I agree with your rating and pretty much all of your thoughts. I thought they could have done so much more but it feels like they were told to tone it down so they could milk it for Season 2 and beyond.
A shame the Finale didn't end on a high and that the Anakin episodes mid-season were the best ones.
I don't like how stories in the Universe can't stand on their own now. I think that was what I liked about Andor so much (despite being a prequel), and Mando Season 1. They stood on their own as stories within the Star Wars galaxy. They weren't tied into every other piece of Star Wars media as part of the greater Star Wars Transmedia Content Story (tm).
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The finale should have been like the 4th episode so we could see a resolution for literally ANY character. I liked this episode just as an episode, more episodes like that would have made the show better overall.
The whole season was basically them f***ing up their home galaxy and getting stranded in a distant one and they seem pretty okay with it for some reason.
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The finale should have been like the 4th episode so we could see a resolution for literally ANY character. I liked this episode just as an episode, more episodes like that would have made the show better overall.
The whole season was basically them f***ing up their home galaxy and getting stranded in a distant one and they seem pretty okay with it for some reason.
They're OK with it because Ahsoka is Ahsoka The White now and she can't be disappointed by anything that occurs or the actions of Sabine because she's gone through some kind of spiritual awakening and we must have linear character progression.
Now if say she slapped Sabine for her recklessness, then gave her some harsh wisdom and Sabine showed some honest to god emotion about it? That would be great TV. The actors could actually act!
Instead we get robotic exchanges where we're not sure how to feel about anything because none of the characters are perturbed about anything that happens.
That was another great thing that Andor did better. There were instances of raw emotion and consequences to peoples actions and decisions. And they didn't need to put the entire galaxy at stake for us as the audience to feel it.
The finale should have been like the 4th episode so we could see a resolution for literally ANY character. I liked this episode just as an episode, more episodes like that would have made the show better overall.
The whole season was basically them f***ing up their home galaxy and getting stranded in a distant one and they seem pretty okay with it for some reason.
Yeah..."We have to save Ezra! He's stranded!!!"
Well...Ezra is 'home' now, despite the fact that for most of life despite considering Lothal his home, he was essentially a drifter. He was doing okay with the rock turtle dudes.
Now Ezra is safe! But the Galaxy isnt because Thrawn is here to f-things up. Oh and instead of Ezra being stranded now Ahsoka, Sabine, Huyang, Shin and Baylan are all stranded.
Good job guys. Way to hit it out of the park.
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They didn't even match the combat pace done in other live action series and movies.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the sword play, but other than Anakin in the wbw, none of them moved with pace.
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I was reading into this way, way back when Ahsoka was introduced in the Mandalorian that one of the primary reasons they didnt use the voice-actor ffrom the cartoons as Ahsoka is because, which she does have some actual acting credits, shes not very good (it was largely as like an extra in Disney channel shows? I dont know) but no 'physical' acting experience as in, fighting, etc.
For TCW and such the actors would get hooked up for motion capture for their fight scenes, except she was one of the ones that didnt, she opted to have a stunt-person perform her scenes and she'd stick to doing voices.
So it was determined that she didnt have the acting chops or physical fighting experience to pull off a live-action Ahsoka. Cool. That seems perfectly reasonable to me and I've never heard of that actress complaining about the decision.
So they turned to Rosario Dawson aannd....I dont think I'm the only one who thought she didnt really do all that well at the fighting scenes and the rest was pretty lackluster?
Now that might not be on her. Its entirely possible thats just how it was directed, I dont know.
Anyways, we're assuming this is a precursor to something else that is bigger.
But thats an assumption, there have been no announcements that I'm aware of, so maybe thats okay?
Or maybe they're just going to forget about all of that and have a season of Ahsoka and Sabine bumming around another Galaxy going on adventures and stuff which, if I'm honest, wouldnt be a bad idea...
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I actually like most of the cast, including Dawson even Bordizzo. I also enjoyed the lightsaber fight scenes overall. I even enjoyed this episode to the point that it annoyed me because, like I said, if it had been in the middle of a series that ended with the conclusion of all these threads, it would be awesome.
It's the story and character choices that make no sense. Filoni pooched this IMO.
Well, it's A-Typical for Ahsoka to be cleaning up the underlying major threats on the periphery of the story-verse of this star wars Era. Makes sense she's in for a big fight involving the Brother, Sister and Father and Abeloth in another galaxy so far removed from the rest. Just going to be interesting how they cover Ray Stephensons unfortunate departure. I suppose the Brother takes over Balons part next season.
I thought this series would hit better and even I will admit it felt Flat. It didn't evoke feelings like Vader vs Ahsoka or give any real sense of dread at the appearance of Thrawn or the pure joy of meeting up with Ezra again. Maybe these characters don't translate well to live action.
And I'll say this about Rosario Dawson's Lughtsaber choreography, it's too slow for the character. Its too grounded and planted and far too steeped in Bushido . Her technique has missed to mark in terms of transitioning Ahsoka to live action. Perhaps that's to work around Dawson's limitation, I don't know. But all I've Sliver seen in ahsokas style has always been speed speed speed.
It's almost like they're intentionally playing down the characters skills and maybe ramping them up in this next season?
I Ikeda it, but I think it fell short of my excitement level for the character and the series.
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What's annoying is the potential that was there, but not exploited.
At episode 6 with all this exponential world building, they could've soared with these character arcs if they had leaned into that momentum. Instead they opted to keep the story small, safe, predictable, and like it was pulling punches creatively and sticking to a Disney formula.
They'd better make use of those Baylan scenes they filmed but didn't air here because Ray deserves to have all his work on this project experienced by the fans. He did so well.
What's annoying is the potential that was there, but not exploited.
At episode 6 with all this exponential world building, they could've soared with these character arcs if they had leaned into that momentum. Instead they opted to keep the story small, safe, predictable, and like it was pulling punches creatively and sticking to a Disney formula.
They'd better make use of those Baylan scenes they filmed but didn't air here because Ray deserves to have all his work on this project experienced by the fans. He did so well.
I couldn't agree with you more regarding Baylan. He was absolutely my favorite character, and it's a g-damn tragedy that actor has passed.
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