[PGT] Avs 3 Flames 2 on the brink

[CGY12]

Originally Posted by dino7c

lets hope so

Dino, my best friend. The guy who was constantly on me for criticizing the team down the stretch and basically predicting what we are currently watching.

I sure wish I had the chance to post after a win, Game 1 seems like forever ago.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Watch CP run Johnny out of town and he goes on to have a Art Ross winning season and wins a cup with another team. I'm gonna be pissed.

[atb]

Gaudreau and Monahan need space for their game to work, and that space just isn't available in the playoffs. Compared to MacKinnon, Landeskog, and Rantanen, the Flames top players have been soft, prone to turnovers, unable to sustain pressure in the offensive zone. It's brutal when the 4th line has had a better time in the offensive zone with less minutes than the top line. I can't count the number of times Gaudreau carried the puck in along the boards, was tightly checked, and gave the puck away.

[CliffFletcher]

I don't get the vitriol being aimed at Gaudreau. He's been playing hard, battling for the puck, back-checking. But clearly the Avs have scouted and game-planned around him. Since he's the only one on his line who can gain the zone, he's being swarmed in the offensive zone. And he can't dish to a linemate because Monahan has been invisible.

Gaudreau needs to be on a line with another player who can gain entry. The schtick he has where he waterbugs around and then dishes to Monahan in the slot is predictable and easy to defend in the playoffs when everyone gets played a lot tighter.

[Phaneuf_Phan]

How much $ would it take to have the Colorado shot-clock guy become our guy?

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Changing goalies isn't going to change style of play.


Also Smith has earned the right to see this through without question.

Smith has played too well to bench him just to change up chemistry...if he'd just been OK, i'd agree with you

there's plenty of other players that ought to be switched out in the forward ranks...

i think calgary needs an injection of speed to put pressure on the Avs defensemen... if Janko and/or Neal aren't sitting next game, i'd be pretty choked...

[zamler]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I just mean they ran him outta town saying you couldn't win with him...when he got help he won the cup and lead the pens in scoring. He needed help, some players can't carry a team on their back.

Gaudreau is not a 12M top three pick superstar...he just isn't

We agree here.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Janko the best possible 4th liner available the first round.

Feasters mark on this team lives on .

Not only that Feaster choices were Sven, Granlund and Wotherspoon.

Wotherspoon was chosen the pick right before Kucherov.


What a dark history.

Thats Flames hockey tho. Always choosing the wrong guys . I still hate we took Kidd before Broduer.

They went 4/5 on that draft. Gaudreau, Baertschi, Granlund, and Broissoit are all NHL regulars.

That was the Flames' best draft since the 80s.
Criticize Feaster, but the 2011 draft was the one amazing thing he did. Plus he got 2 seconds and Horak for Tom Erixon.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I don't think the Flames should blow up the team.

But I do think it's clear that Treliving needs to acquire top-end talent.
Gaudreau and Giordano aren't enough, especially not in the playoffs.

The guy who leads the playoffs in goals and points and is a finalist for the selke was available at the deadline.

[Svartsengi]

Originally Posted by Reign of Fire

As much as I hated the officiating today, this Fleury tweet also rings true.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1118658440937660416

Love this tweet. Hopefully The Flames skaters find their balls for game 5

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by CGY12

Dino, my best friend. The guy who was constantly on me for criticizing the team down the stretch and basically predicting what we are currently watching.

I sure wish I had the chance to post after a win, Game 1 seems like forever ago.

So you are here to say I told you so?

Because you also predicted they wouldn't win the division or the conference...being negative is easy and eventually you will probably be right considering there are 31 teams

[Gaskal]

Need a closed door players only meeting.

Hell, I dunno. Something. ANYTHING.

[combustiblefuel]

[QUOTE=Since1984;7088998]I agree... But we aren't champions.. We have a bunch of millennials on our team..... Soft.., cry baby... Pieces of garbage..[/QUOTE]

If your 38 years or younger your a millennial or generation z . There are like a handful of players that are generstion z in the whole league.

For #### sakes mike Smith is a millennial.

MOD EDIT: Removed insult.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

I'd go Rittich as well to try and change the style of play.

I hate "hold onto the lead" hockey. This looks like Gulutzan trauma. The one man forecheck mentioned earlier has to stop, send two or three players. Pressure the Avs.

It's the wrong brand of hockey, these guys can't do it.

Already threw 2 games away playing this style 3 strikes and it is golf time. Hard to believe we are throwing away leads late in game like that. One thing for sure is if we are controlling the play more with the lead we might not be the ones taking the penalties!!

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Jiggy_12

For those of you that have sworn off the Flames in this series, and proclaimed some of our players gone....see you never?

For the rest of the rational fan base - this was a rough loss. You have two games with a late lead, blow both the leads, then lose both the overtime coinflips.

At worst, even with pessimistic expectations we should have won at least 1 of those games. If you do that 100 times we probably win 90 of them. This small sample absolutely bit us.

We will now very much likely lose the series (maybe at best a 15-20% chance we win) but that's why the games are played. Colorado has been the better team and our superior skill hasn't been able to answer their work ethic.

I would be a lot more confident if we weren’t giving up 40-50 shots per game. Half the shots look dangerous as hell too. This is the most unsustainable playoff hockey I’ve ever seen. If it wasn’t for Mike Smith’s spectacular goaltending right now, the Flames would be swept today. If Martin Jones was the Flames goaltender instead, the scores might be 10-2 every game.

If there’s any chance of winning a game again let alone the series, a new game plan must be implemented.


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[VANFLAMESFAN]

Here’s something that’s really gonna suck assuming they lose this series.


Next season won’t be enjoyable at all no matter how high they are in the standings. Everyone will assume they’ll falter in playoffs or have a “I’ll wait till April” kind of mindset.

I really enjoyed the regular season this year, but if this ends so abruptly, they could break The league record for wins next year and it will be a big “meh” for most.

[redforever]

Originally Posted by Since1984

#### Fluery... That guy is a bigger bag of wine than AA bag of wine from Kelowna. Won a Stanley cup on the coat trails of a bunch of great playes and proceeded to bury his troubles in drugs...... Yes he got abused also yes he never was the answer for a cup.... Shut up Fluery

All this post deserves is a big pile of bull ####e.

[Barnet Flame]

We were better tonight. This was our response to the humiliation on Monday.

But we still were nowhere near being in the same class as Colorado.

This team just doesn’t have what it takes when the intensity increases towards the end of the season, nevermind the playoffs.

Monny and Johnny will never be a successful playoff tandem.

Trade Monny and give Johnny a season with a more engaged and tougher centre. If that doesn’t work then consider moving Gaudreau as well.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

They went 4/5 on that draft. Gaudreau, Baertschi, Granlund, and Broissoit are all NHL regulars.

That was the Flames' best draft since the 80s.
Criticize Feaster, but the 2011 draft was the one amazing thing he did. Plus he got 2 seconds and Horak for Tom Erixon.

Non are flames other than Gaudreau.

It means nothing to me as a fan if your drafting for other teams.

That was wasted assets over the years as none of those drafted players benifieted the Flames or the trades that happened. I think only the Granlund deal did.

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

Here’s something that’s really gonna suck assuming they lose this series.


Next season won’t be enjoyable at all no matter how high they are in the standings. Everyone will assume they’ll falter in playoffs or have a “I’ll wait till April” kind of mindset.

I really enjoyed the regular season this year, but if this ends so abruptly, they could break The league record for wins next year and it will be a big “meh” for most.

I agree, but right now I’m not even excited for game 5. That’s the worst. I didn’t expect them to win the cup this year, but would it have killed them to make it past round 1 for once? I’m 25 years old and they’ve made it to round two twice for Christ sakes.