Calgarypuck Mafia Game Thread

And that #### was the reason I didn't want to hammer GGG. I knew there was going to be a SERIOUS death post!!! I just didn't know how serious. Phenomenal player... but a crappy Coiler troll
And I will miss you diss.
I wonder what GGG was so afraid of us discussing that he was in such a rush to peace out?

[mrkajz44]

Wow - did not expect to see that turn of events. Especially surprised with a self-hammer.

Based on the fact that two Oilers are gone now, along with the way the votes went down, I think we only have a few options left to vote out. I'll run through this tomorrow when I have more time, but I think the only people who didn't vote for either Oiler banning was SebC and myself. I'll admit fault on day 2 since everyone else seemed to zero in correctly on GGG - I just thought the votes went on way too easy, but maybe that was just how it was going to be with only two Oilers left after day 1.

Quickly on the night ban of Dissent - seems to make sense as he's been a main part of the engine driving the banning of two Oilers so far. Doesn't seem to be anything major to analyze about that ban at first glance.

[agulati]

I wish we could have had more discussion on who the proxy troll is once we had honed in on GGG being the one to get lynched.

Looking at his posts, he has so far wanted to vote out myself, HG15 and Pux. Am I missing anyone else?

He also said that we should vote in the first 24 hours to have a voting pattern and very shortly voted for HG15. That could be to send us on a wild goose chase to make it seem they aren't connected, if one of them gets voted out early. Diss also made a post about HG being investigated. I am leaning towards HG being the three mafia, and think GGG/HG have repeatedly manufactured discussion/disagreement to distance themselves. They also have always tended to post around similar times (might just be a coincidence)

I don't think Pux is mafia, since he tried to draw attention to her on night 1 to save Bonded. Would have been a bad move, to switch attention from one mafia member to another.

Fuzz is obviously the moderator, so he is town. I'm still leaning towards scornfire being town.

I'm going to get the ball rolling with voting for HG, but let us not be hasty in the lynch. We need to hash out alternatives, because every night we lose a number.

[agulati]

Vote: Hockeyguy15

Originally Posted by agulati

I'm going to get the ball rolling with voting for HG, but let us not be hasty in the lynch. We need to hash out alternatives, because every night we lose a number.

Actually, unless we lynch the proxy, we lose 2 a night.

[agulati]

Also I realize HG got the ball rolling on GGG, but I think it backfired on him.

I'm going to turn in since I am sleep deprived.

We should be proud that we are 2/2 but please lets not be hasty lynching anyone this day, even if we make up our minds. Let us use the day to draw out alternatives if we end up being wrong.

[agulati]

Originally Posted by Puxlut

Actually, unless we lynch the proxy, we lose 2 a night.

Good point. We should take our time with every decision. I didn't like that we gave GGG a chance to hammer the vote in himself.

Originally Posted by Puxlut

In for 5 minutes before I have to take the kidlet swimming.
Just a quick general list for myself that I've been working on:
People that are "on my radar": Scorn, HG, GGG, Mrk.
People sort of on my radar? Ag, Seb, devo
Not enough info or not actively looking at this moment: Fuzz, WF, diss

Some of you I can't put my finger on why and others because of reasons already listed. I'll try and do a follow up post when I get back.

Before I go to bed: my new list:
People that are "on my radar": HG, Mrk, Seb
People sort of on my radar? devo, scorn, Ag, EOJ
Not enough info or not actively looking at this moment: WF, drop

[Scornfire]

WinnipegFan setting up the hammer after pulling his vote prior to Fuzz calling GGG out on the fake mod reveal was ludicrous

Great job Diss, that was the definition of a revenge ban :/

[Hockeyguy15]

Actually that night kill makes no sense to me. The only person in the game that can be a confirmed Flames fan without a card flip is Fuzz, so by taking out dissentowner they have reduced their ability to hide by 1 person. It makes me think that the last Oiler fan is potentially a new player or someone less strategic.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

It makes me think that the last Oiler fan is potentially a new player or someone less strategic.

A great reason to not discuss what the smart kill strategy is. A mistake could be made that would help the town immensely.

[DropIt]

Am I the only one that thought GGG banned himself because of the names Fizz was bringing up? I guess it was smart justvtobshut the whole thing down and get the town off the roll they were on

[devo22]

great job yesterday. Kudos to Fuzz for the great reveal. Losing diss sucks, he played a heck of a game.

GGG performing seppuku is also interesting to me. Maybe discussion was going into a direction that would have harmed the proxy troll.

[DropIt]

I think if we go back to day 1, we can assume everyone is probably Flames fans. Pux was a tying vote to make it 4-4, which as a critical time, I was the vote to make it 5-5, yet another critical time and Scorn was the killing vote. Agulayi I'm pretty sure is town, but he may have tried to hide in another set of votes early and couldn't get out of it without looking guilty when it was too late.

Crazy EOJ was in the midst of that and voted Agulati when it was 4-4 and ends up going the wrong way.
I'd also have to imagine that the mafia guys didnt want to all back the same horse in the voting, so my suspicion for now plays away from WPG and MRK.

To me this leaves Devo, HG and SebC as my top targets.

[DropIt]

Originally Posted by devo22

great job yesterday. Kudos to Fuzz for the great reveal. Losing diss sucks, he played a heck of a game.

GGG performing seppuku is also interesting to me. Maybe discussion was going into a direction that would have harmed the proxy troll.

I think with the type of game Diss was having, the thought was to shut down conversation and get Diss out of it.

[Fuzz]

Holy crap I'm alive!


Sorry we didn't get a chance to keep talking, beginner move on my part. I didn't realize self-banning was a thing, otherwise I would have pulled my vote first so we could have kept chatting.


Probably worth looking at whoever Diss was on to, and perhaps my guesses at the end were missing the mark so I was deemed less risky.

[devo22]

SebC is high on my list. He moved from GGG yesterday and pushed for him to stay alive for another day. Generally it's so hard to get a read on him because he always plays his cards close to his chest.

also going back to GGG claiming we shouldn't lynch a newbie - maybe he really had two in his team? crazy_eoj has really flown under the radar so far.

[DropIt]

Originally Posted by DropIt

I think if we go back to day 1, we can assume everyone is probably Flames fans. Pux was a tying vote to make it 4-4, which as a critical time, I was the vote to make it 5-5, yet another critical time and Scorn was the killing vote. Agulayi I'm pretty sure is town, but he may have tried to hide in another set of votes early and couldn't get out of it without looking guilty when it was too late.

Crazy EOJ was in the midst of that and voted Agulati when it was 4-4 and ends up going the wrong way.
I'd also have to imagine that the mafia guys didnt want to all back the same horse in the voting, so my suspicion for now plays away from WPG and MRK.

To me this leaves Devo, HG and SebC as my top targets.

Going to Day 2, HG is the catalyst behind GGG aside Diss, I think this starts too early for him to be just jumping in the bandwagon. I think that's enough for me to let that slide another day.

Devo is in on the GGG vote but that one IS pretty late to the party and could have been a bandwagon vote on a guy that was on the chopping block anyways. of Tue woods IMO.

SebC is another guy that jumps out since he was in on the vote for Crazy with GGG on day 2, as well he was not on the Bonded wagon in Day 1. He seems to be at heads with GGG alot but quietly on his side as well.

After day 2, my list goes to: SebC and Devo.

[DropIt]

Vote: SebC

[Hockeyguy15]

Just as I am going through the days this is what stands out for me with GGG. Not going to quote all the posts to avoid a wall of text.

Post #21 gives me a hard time for helping new players - It makes me think that he is trying to distance himself from the new players with this.

Post #24 I make a joke disagreeing with the random generator Bonded brought up, GGG jumps on it and says anyone using a random number generator should be lynched. Odd that Bonded suggested it, but I get the vote? Trying to distance himself from Bonded again?

Post #36 GGG defending his need to have votes on people. In reality I think GGG wants people voting often because it is then harder to go back and understand their motive.

Post #73 He says he thinks Fuzz is town because "There is an assumption that the voting is random which comes from a pure town perspective". Yet earlier in post #21 he told me I was downplaying the first vote as random. I think we are starting to see GGG having issues being an Oiler fan, he's getting sloppy. Last game when I was scum it was hard to come up with arguments to make people look guilty when you knew they weren't.

Post #97 he talks about replacing inactive players over banning them, by my count Bonded had 4 posts (with 1 being a vote). I'm wondering if at this point he has 2 inactive buddies?

Post #111 he changes his vote from me to Puxlut for a posting a lot but not adding value. Both his votes so far seem to be for no reason, he also makes his first mistake and thinks that Puxlut has a vote on her already. Seems like he is trying to start a run up on her, which makes me lean towards her being a Flames fan.

Post #160 says we don't want to accidentally lynch WinnipegFan, we have 4 of 7 votes on him. Then follows up and asks WinnipegFan if he thinks Oiler fans ganing up on a person not voting is a good strategy? This stands out to me because it almost seems to me like they discussed his defense in their other forum and WinnipegFan didn't post to GGG's liking so he tried to guide him along.

Post #164 GGG throws out a list of stuff that stands out to him. He could be trying to distract people from the WinnipegFan votes.

Post #201 GGG and his don't lynch a new poster on day 1. Obviously Bonded was new but he didn't have any heat on him yet. I think he may be trying to protect both his buddies while the agulati vote is picking up steam. This also makes me lean as agulati possibly being a Flames fan.

Post #202 GGG and Bonded discussing the Bonded vote on agulati. Again it almost seems like GGG is coachin him on his post similar to with WinnipegFan.

Post #247 GGG says it's good Oiler strategy to ban new players. Again protecting new players.

Post #260 The Bonded vote is picking up steam, GGG tries to save Bonded and goes into attack mode on dissentowner and agulati.

Post #279 GGG is the 4th vote on agulati, saying he put agulati in the lead. He forgets that Scornfire also has 4 votes on him. This still seems off to me, along with the protect new posters narrative I'm not sure about Scornfire.

That whole time Bonded was on the block all he did was go on about agulati and other veteran posters. I think he was totally out of his element and was in full damage control mode being saddled with 2 rookie posters.

The vote from day 1
Votes Scornfire (4): Hockeyguy15, SebC, devo22, bizaro86
Votes agulati (5): Winnipegfan, mrkajz44, Bonded, GGG, crazy_eoj
Votes Bonded (6): dissentowner, agulati, Fuzz, Puxlut, DropIt, Scornfire

Dissentowner and Fuzz we know are town. I lean towards Puxlut and agulati being town. GGG and Bonded voted for agulati, would they have all 3 vote for the same person day 1? That seems risky. That leaves me to look at DropIt and Scornfire as possible Oiler fans trying to gain Flames fan credit with a ban of their own buddy.

I don't have time to look at day 2 right now, but just looking at the vote count neither voted for GGG.