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View Poll Results: Who do you WANT to be the Flames starting goalie in 2017–18?
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Ryan Miller (UFA)
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Jonathan Bernier (UFA)
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Steve Mason (UFA)
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Brian Elliott (UFA)
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Chad Johnson (UFA)
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Mike Condon (UFA)
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Philipp Grubauer (Trade)
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Calvin Pickard (Trade)
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Marc Andre-Fleury (Trade)
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Jaroslav Halak (Trade)
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Antti Raanta (Trade)
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Cam Ward (Trade)
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Joonis Korpisalo (Trade)
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Mike Smith (Trade)
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Jon Gillies
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David Rittich
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Peter Mrazek (Trade)
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Micheal Neuvirth (Trade)
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05-11-2017, 07:33 PM
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#521
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: B.C.
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Not sure how they are rated but if the method is sound I can not understand why some of you would have spent big bucks on Bishop when Elliott is only 3 places lower.
goaliepost.com/top-100-goalies
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05-11-2017, 07:36 PM
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#522
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Originally Posted by Teroy
Not sure how they are rated but if the method is sound I can not understand why some of you would have spent big bucks on Bishop when Elliott is only 3 places lower.
goaliepost.com/top-100-goalies
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That's a ranking for fantasy leagues. Not an actual goaltending ranking.
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05-11-2017, 07:41 PM
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Grubauer with Johnson as insurance seems a decent bet.
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05-11-2017, 07:46 PM
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Originally voted darling, now I'd like either Grubauer or Miller. One because of that sleeper number one, and one because he'd be a good stop gap.
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05-11-2017, 09:13 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: B.C.
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I still say stick with Elliott & Johnson.
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05-11-2017, 09:21 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Halifax, NS
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Originally Posted by TheFlamesVan
But they don't have a 10 year window to win with the rest of their core. They have like.... 5? Maybe. It makes more sense to keep the franchise goalie and trade the larger asset in my mind.
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Sure, except that Murray was their goalie last year when they won the Stanley Cup. Murray isn't a future goalie prospect. He's their #1 goalie right now and if he hadn't been injured in the pre-skate before Round 1 Game 1 he'd have been playing all these games MAF is playing.
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05-11-2017, 09:26 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Teroy
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Elliott was 45th in GSAA and Johnson 39th. No where near starting goalie level this year.
The really interesting name that stands out is Aaron Dell at 11th. With 70% quality starts as a backup. Just not sure how quality of competition might inflate those numbers though.
11 Aaron Dell 27 SJS 20 17 11 6 1 37 533 496 .931 2.00 1 1111 12 .706 1 80 9.13 0 0 0 0
Buffalo had two good ones in Robin Lehner and Anders Nilsson this year.
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05-11-2017, 09:44 PM
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#530
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Draft Pick
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Goobauer
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05-11-2017, 09:47 PM
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#531
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Aaron Dell played for the Heat a few years ago for a handful of games.
Put up good numbers too.
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05-11-2017, 09:54 PM
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#532
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: B.C.
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Originally Posted by Flamescuprun2018
Elliott was 45th in GSAA and Johnson 39th. No where near starting goalie level this year.
The really interesting name that stands out is Aaron Dell at 11th. With 70% quality starts as a backup. Just not sure how quality of competition might inflate those numbers though.
11 Aaron Dell 27 SJS 20 17 11 6 1 37 533 496 .931 2.00 1 1111 12 .706 1 80 9.13 0 0 0 0
Buffalo had two good ones in Robin Lehner and Anders Nilsson this year.
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Yes but Bishop was only 42nd. My point is that some on here wanted to spend big bucks to get Bishop. The two we've got are just as good.
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05-11-2017, 09:58 PM
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#533
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Teroy
Yes but Bishop was only 42nd. My point is that some on here wanted to spend big bucks to get Bishop. The two we've got are just as good.
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Haha. Based on what? Last years stats?
Ever heard of a down year for a goalie?
It happens to just about every single one of them.
Maybe combine all their stats over the last 4-5 seasons and then tell me Elliott and Johnson are as good as Bishop.
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05-11-2017, 10:16 PM
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by ClubFlames
With Bishop gone and rumors of MAF deal with Vegas next choice for me would be Calvin Pickard if Avs are planning not to protect him in the expansion draft.
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Good god, why?
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05-11-2017, 11:01 PM
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#535
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Flames need two options. Best way to do it is to get a veteran with a history of being a starter (Fleury, Halak, Mason, Miller) AND a young goalie who has backed up in the NHL and with potential to turn into a starter (Pickard, Grubauer, Raanta).
Sadly, I think this means no Chad Johnson. Only way you bring back Johnson is if you can land a legit number 1 like Bishop or Schneider.
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05-11-2017, 11:27 PM
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#537
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Maybe combine all their stats over the last 4-5 seasons and then tell me Elliott and Johnson are as good as Bishop.
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Since the 2011-12 season, guess which goalie has the best GAA (among goalies with at least 50 GP)?
http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?aggr...AgainstAverage
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05-11-2017, 11:31 PM
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#538
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by getbak
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Fleury down at 26th
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05-11-2017, 11:36 PM
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#539
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef
Fleury down at 26th
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With Johnson 29th, 0.02 goal per game more than Fleury, which translates to 1 extra goal in 50 games.
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05-11-2017, 11:56 PM
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#540
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by getbak
With Johnson 29th, 0.02 goal per game more than Fleury, which translates to 1 extra goal in 50 games.
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I honestly believe Fleury is the most overrated starter in the league. He goes on some great hot streaks, but he's pretty average most of the time. I just don't see how he is worth almost $6 million against the cap plus assets to acquire him. Fleury is successful because of the team in front of him.
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